Complain all you want..

[SpookyGhost]

The books are a lot like when you first grinded for Darklight (ARR), you're always working toward a goal you know you'll achieve. Even if it's arbitrary tasks like killing x amount of mobs or completing some dungeon you've cleared a million times over, it's at least Do A Thing = Get A Thing. It could be better, it could actually give some sort of semi-"difficult" challenge (Clear T5, Clear EX Primals, etc.), but either way it's a huge step in the right direction compared to the Atma quest.

[nocturnal84]

I hate fates and this looks boring to me so I won't do it.
It doesn't make me want to quit the game or have a cry on the forums about it like some people, the entitlement complex of these pple is so annoying.

[ApolloGenX]

I hate fates and this looks boring to me so I won't do it.
It doesn't make me want to quit the game or have a cry on the forums about it like some people, the entitlement complex of these pple is so annoying.

I think there is a difference between expressing dissatisfaction with a quest design and saying that it "should" be something that you can easily obtain because you "deserve" it. I don't think "entitlement" is the same thing as player dissatisfaction.

[Ninjaii]

and a majority of the complaints is hwo there is no earnable variant. You need rng twice to get levi weapon done. You need rng and a weekly lockout to get heavy allagan. You need rng twice and weekly lockout twice to upgrade weathered soldiery. You need rng and weekly lockout for tutn 7 weapons. There is nother higher than ex weapons or zenith that u just earn by putting in the effort. It's called 'sweat of your brow' not a hand-out. It isn't a handout to get paid for doing your job, and noone would work for a company that only paid u if u were lucky.

[nocturnal84]

I think there is a difference between expressing dissatisfaction with a quest design and saying that it "should" be something that you can easily obtain because you "deserve" it. I don't think "entitlement" is the same thing as player dissatisfaction.

Some of the first posts on this thread where complaining how this has ruined everything and they're going to quit the game. That is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

[ApolloGenX]

Some of the first posts on this thread where complaining how this has ruined everything and they're going to quit the game. That is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

With all due respect - (and I realize those post might have been dramatic)... the design trajectory this kind of quest indicates could certainly be a determinate factor for whether or not to re-sub for some people. That would be understandable. It is a departure from the previous playing style.

[Ninjaii]

With all due respect - (and I realize those post might have been dramatic)... the design trajectory this kind of quest indicates could certainly be a determinate factor for whether or not to re-sub for some people. That would be understandable. It is a departure from the previous playing style.

Exactly, basing everything on rng just makes this game the same as all the others. Previously you knew u could at least earn a variant. Since the game has become just like all the rest some people will find no reason to play it anymore.

[Kittra]

With all due respect - (and I realize those post might have been dramatic)... the design trajectory this kind of quest indicates could certainly be a determinate factor for whether or not to re-sub for some people. That would be understandable. It is a departure from the previous playing style.

Seeing as a lot of FFXIV 1.0 "faithfuls" quit after the game took it's current design route and trajectory, I wouldn't doubt your statement at all. If people see this quest as an indication of the game shifting in design, then that would explain why many are threatening to quit over it.