Complain all you want..

[Prototype909]

I dont see why people are complaining about atma progress, do it while you accomplish other things and then voila, it is no longer a chore and you get it in time. you have 3 weeks until you have the soldiery tomes to actually make the weapon useful (atma is ilvl 100 but holds no benefit). For an example, I got the time to do my hildibrand quest line which took me to upper la noscea, popped in a random fate, Boom got my atma of lion.

You are not supposed to grind your brains out on these fates instead of do other content, it is an over time activity. If you are complaining about wasting time you should reevaluate how you're spending it in a) a forum like this and b) any video game what so ever (if you're not getting paid)

Animus uses myth, not soldiery

[EdwinLi]

Animus uses myth, not soldiery

That and that you will need 9 books to upgrade Atma into Animus being that you will need a total of 13,500 Myth Tomes so Atma can become Animus with each book have 4 different tasks covering Battle leve, Dungeons, FATES, and Monster kills.

[Eardstapa]

I don't think people understand sarcasm.

[Ninjaii]

No i understand what he means by 4/12 is still no progress. Because it is RNG. Say someone has 6/12 in lets say 12 hours. If it takes him 100 more hours to get the other 6 because of RNG, he wasn't 1/2 way done. Thats like saying u get one powerball number right and u made progress on the next time it draws even though u earned no reward. It isn't progress because each individual instance is a variant RNG.

And since it is RNG, if u dont get the drop there is no progress therefore it is stopped and not slowed. It's either RNG popped or it doesn't, since there is no cumulative tally to compensate against the RNG not getting an Atma on a Fate whether it is the 1st one u are trying for or the 12th = no progress.

Just like if u open a Levi Ex chest or a Coil chest and u want BRD weapon but another weapon dropped, u didnt make any progress towards that BRD weapon.

[Elim]

I laughed and cried when I realized I had to do more FATES to upgrade my Atma. Just a warning to all those trying to get theirs...you'll be back.

[Prototype909]

I laughed and cried when I realized I had to do more FATES to upgrade my Atma. Just a warning to all those trying to get theirs...you'll be back.

At least with the books there actually -IS- progress since the start and end are clearly defined. Nobody has a problem with that part of the quest.

[Elim]

At least with the books there actually -IS- progress since the start and end are clearly defined. Nobody has a problem with that part of the quest.

I have a problem with it. O:

Anyway, I was simply pointing out you'll be sent back to FATEs.

[EdwinLi]

I have a problem with it. O:

Anyway, I was simply pointing out you'll be sent back to FATEs.

Well the Books do send you back to FATEs but they will tell you what 3 FATES you will need to complete to progress in the Book so people will need to act fast before someone completes the FATE before they reach the FATE.

[Ninjaii]

yea i dont mind doing fates i hate playing a slot machine acting like its a video game though, and everything above i90 except for weathered soldiery is just a stupid slot machine.

[Wildsprite]

I can tell you horror stories from 3 of those systems in XI that would send you running away from ANY thoughts of implementing any of them.

HNM: You must have a bot program itching to be used to be hyping up an HNM system. That approach in XI was a disaster from day one and the only ones who endorse it are the ones who had the best bots to claim them.

ZNM: No way in any of the seven hells do I want this train wreck anywhere NEAR Eorzea. Between expensive equipment (gil sink), insufficient rewards for the pictures (time sink), and the ridiculous drop rates (RNG hell), don't even bring this up and expect serious consideration.

VWNM: Seriously?

Abyssea: This is about the only sane point you've made. The NM tree wasn't ridiculously difficult and the drop rates were reasonable.

as someone who took part in all of these, I find your accusations and put downs of them to be rather disturbing. all of those are/were about group efforts including Abyssea
if you have horror stories about these, chances are you did them horribly wrong.
HNMs were always about group efforts, if your group was good they usually weren't an issue. no botting was needed for good groups
ZNMs again about group efforts
VWNMs with the right group were really fun and could get pretty silly
Abyssea was actually the only real train wreck in XI, it made players so much lazier it wasnt even funny, it should have had a lvl cap minimum of atleast 65 but more likely 70 but that is another argument

most of your argument denotes laziness or unwillingness to work with others. which is bad in any good MMO