SE I sure hope Unidentfied Allagan Tomestones drop in other places besides CoB T6+.

[Arkista]

You can still gear up with soldierly tokens, but it's not the best gear because you're not doing the hardest content for it. You don't even NEED the best gear if you're not planning to tackle Coil Turns 6 and beyond.

Ok so when I'm doing T6-T9 and I don't get shit for gear or even get to upgrade my gear, And everyone else gets drops and I get left behind in ilvls that's ok? I'm not kidding about the gear drops I went 3 months without a damn drop from Coils for my Main. Will that happen in T6-T9 idk RNG is RNG.

I don't understand why people keep thinking that Dealing with RNG is Hard Content. It's not, It just luck. Maybe if the Lockouts weren't 1 week long it would be a different story.

[Taruranto]

This RNG is even worse than Coil RNG though, at least there you had to fight with at worst 1 ppl for loot. The drop was rare, yes, but at least once it drops you won't have to fight with 7 ppl to get it.

[Arkista]

This RNG is even worse than Coil RNG though, at least there you had to fight with at worst 1 ppl for loot. The drop is rare, yes, but at least once it drops you won't have to fight with 7 ppl to get it.

People aren't getting that. Yes there are other ways to gear up but they aren't the best. No one even knows if the Allagan Tomestone is even 100% drop, I'm pretty sure it isn't. Its not like only 1-2 people are going to get to cast lots on it, All 8 people are. You could go Months without getting one, Even worse is if you don't have a static and you have to use PUGs. Or what if you have that greedy static member, How are statics going to prioritize the drops? DPS 1st, Tanks 1st, or Healers 1st?

I would rather do content so brutal that its nearly impossible, as long as there was a 100% drop rate. People haven't even started to get on this yet as they are busy doing quest and Relic Atma Farming.

[Odett]

Ok so when I'm doing T6-T9 and I don't get shit for gear or even get to upgrade my gear, And everyone else gets drops and I get left behind in ilvls that's ok? I'm not kidding about the gear drops I went 3 months without a damn drop from Coils for my Main. Will that happen in T6-T9 idk RNG is RNG.

That's a good argument (and I'm also plagued with bad luck from drops, lol), and we have to hope that players don't start setting crazy ilv requirements that can only be achieved with Coil pieces. The problem with this is that well..we're making the problem, not SE. The heavy reliance on being overgeared to clear content is beyond me and we see it every day with Titan EX groups wanting ilv 85+, which will not save you from dying to mechanics. I think that bad players think they can make up for their lack of skill with better gear, and this has sadly become a problem that has cursed the western MMO scene.

At the same time, I understand why the best gear is being dropped from Coil because we had people last patch running around in item level total 80+ gear who had no idea how to play their class because they never did anything challenging for their gear, and 8 times out of 10, they were the ones putting up insane item level requirements in the PF for content that did not warrant that item level.

It is also to be remembered that we had people clearing Coil turns in Darklight, and people ARE already clearing the new coil turns with Myth gear, which is basically the new DL. We have yet to see how the "Coil drops the best gear available" method will work out, so I think it would be a good idea to have patience. What WOULD be cool is multiple unstacked Sands of Time dropping and players only being able to roll on one.

[Prototype909]

I don't understand why people are turning this into "Best gear should drop from coil, no exceptions"

The problem isn't that the best gear drops from coil, it's that the gear that's supposed to be the complement or rather the "trade-off" set to the coil gear is locked into the same system and rather than being more accessible it's actually less so. At the bare minimum make the mat drop from extreme instances (Make it exclusive to Levi or whatever the highest tuned fights are, w/e). It shouldn't be bound by lock-outs when you're already being held back by two separate lock-outs.

Coil Gear - One lock-out which is the coil itself. Sure fair enough.

Soldiery Gear - Doubly locked out, first you have to circumvent the soldiery tome cap THEN you have to win a drop that is also bound by the same lock-out as coil that 7 other people are going to be needing on for their own progression. If they wanted to do it this way it should just drop 1 Sand per player.

The Soldiery Gear shouldn't be as mindlessly easy to obtain as JUST having the soldiery tomes (As with AF+1), but having it put behind another lock-out rather than content of equivalent value to coil (Yet not subjected to a lock-out if it's going to be a 1 off drop) is pretty bad.

[Roris]

Because luck is totally a skill, if I get a luck based item that means I'm instantly a better player than you, y'all should just get better at this weekly luck stuff.

[Archulak]

I just want to throw out an idea, since the highest ilvl gear you can get without doing coil is i100 CT should be super relevant in 2.3 because if it stays the same way it was in 2.1 it should drop items 10 ilvls lower than the best gear. Meaning it should drop i100 making it a perfectly viable option to gear up for coil(in some cases dropping better gear then myth for certain classes)


Also if you're not doing coil why would you need ilvl 110 over 100 anyway, nothing else needs it.

[IgnisFatuus]

Also if you're not doing coil why would you need ilvl 110 over 100 anyway, nothing else needs it.

the problem is that you might get left behind if you're unlucky with drops. at this rate, only the people with insane rng luck will beat t9 into the ground before the next nerf (assuming gear/dps checks).

[Odett]

the problem is that you might get left behind if you're unlucky with drops. at this rate, only the people with insane rng luck will beat t9 into the ground before the next nerf (assuming gear/dps checks).

Let's not use T9, lol. At least 80% of people haven't even downed T5. CT will be used to catch up.

[rockso]

typing things

Seriously? Ive ran coil for months on farm. I just 1 week before patch finally got my BIS boots and head. I know how the RNG screws people over but again I dont go post new threads about it. Yes it sucks just be patient theres no race. And if people really "leave you behind" because you havent got a drop in 3 months (which i highly doubt you are a mnk right? My main account is a mnk melee gear drops a lot) then maybe you should find better people to play with? If they arent willing to stick with you because youve not gotten lucky they dont give a damn about you in the first place.