You think that Atma collecting is hard....lol

[Sunarie]

So, I actually am looking forward to the second stage. I -want- that type of grind. I can see my progress, some of it requires grouping. It inspires to make sure I keep up myth upkeep, and there are definitive things to do, not just RNG.

I've spent around 9-10 hours total now doing the Atma grind. During those 9 hours I've been in groups, I've been by myself, either way I go to -every- Fate in the area. I've gone from practically zero seals (after I spent the ones I used to get to cap) up to 13k seals again on Fates that give less, or very close to 100 per downing. I always get gold because I'm practically the first one there and tanking the mob all the time, or I can easily flash spam to get it. I don't think people are blowing things out of proportion at all. I think that's just how RNG works, and why it combined with mostly low level fates is such a bad idea.

All that being said, congrats on getting your weapon.

Did you cheat? Did you use a program that affect your RNG? 12 in a day? Unheard.

12 in a day is possible, my FC mate got his weapon at the end of day 1 when the patch came up. He at least knows he's a lucky bum though, and isn't trying to discredit those of us that aren't. Most people in my FC are reporting getting 1 Atma every 3-4 hours, with a few getting 1 every 1-2. Some areas additionally seem to take longer for us on average. Like Lower Noscea and Upper Noscea.