My two cents on the ATMA Issue

[Blitzace]

And just saying, Generation has really nothing to do with this. Like most people say they rather do 1000-1500 fates with the garantee they get this crap then just to have a lucky day. Sure there might be so whiney kids out there, but don't think older people don't show the same symptoms. And i do think a game is ment to be fun and some part of it should be hard and a challenge, but then once more. this is a challenge just like it is to get 12 dices throw them all and get the same number on all of them. Just a luck factor.

There is a difference to doing 500 fates and getting them all 12 and doing 500+ and getting none, wouldn't you agree?

[MicahZerrshia]

Ive been with this game nonstop since beta v1, I played xi for years, I ran dynamis for relics and salvage for mythics, I completed the v1 story on 2 chars and stayed after last save, I was there when dalamud dropped.

This may be the straw that broke the camel's back.

This is lazy game design. This is boring, outrageously stupid and is a completely silly grind. At least with collecting ancient currency and alexandrite you felt like you were making progress, but this fate bs is complete bs. idk what the devs are thinking but having us run lvl 5 fates for hours and hours to get one drop for one weapon is lazy. I don't mind a grind if its at least interesting or fun, like Dyna, einherjar, nyzul and salvage were. Heck I did those for literally years and enjoyed it. I have been grinding fates for days with no drops and am getting over it.

FATEs are not good game design or fun for the majority of the playerbase from what I have been reading. To much more emphasis on this stupid fate bs and my multiple subs will go elsewhere. I am not paying each month just to spend hrs in a zone grinding lazy content.

Make it long if you want but at least make it fun.

[Synestra]

Instead FATE's it would have been better to add those atmas in levequests that requires you to kill say 500 mobs, that way it would still take good amount of time to complete while you could still see some progress. Book part is actually pretty well done imo even tho you still need to do 3 FATE's in there aswell, luckily you only need to do those once.

[TouchandFeel]

Instead FATE's it would have been better to add those atmas in levequests that requires you to kill say 500 mobs, that way it would still take good amount of time to complete while you could still see some progress. Book part is actually pretty well done imo even tho you still need to do 3 FATE's in there aswell, luckily you only need to do those once.

Actually, something like this would be an excellent idea

How I could see it being done is as a hunting log. The bottom tiers are weaker mobs but you have to kill a lot of them and as the tiers go up, the number you have to kill decreases but their lvl/strength/difficulty increases. You could even have dungeon mobs and bosses and primals on the list so that makes players go into that content.

I feel that this would be a much better solution for many reasons.
First it would provide measurable progression for the players.
Second it would provide more equal progression for the players so that same amount of work reaps equal reward.
Third it could provide more variety of content to go through to complete; open world, fates, trials, dungeons. All content could be utilized.
Lastly it could be much more easily tweaked and balanced from a development side. Not taking long enough for players to complete, increase the number of each mob type that needs to be killed , taking too long then decrease them.

So in conclusion, I feel something like this would be a much better way of completing the atma quest than the current implementation.

[Muziko]

I'll take this rather than having to do Einherjar or whatever it was every day for two years to get my mythic weapon. This is fine the way it is. It gives people a reason to run the content, and I don't mind jumping on TS to shoot the breeze with my friends while we go around trolling other groups of FATErs.

[Blitzace]

New guy 1st fate, he had his drop. Now i'm not pissed at him, no i'm pissed at this lazy content, its no fun, its boring, it has no challenge and its random as HELL!
Sure people who get drops are thinking its not that bad right? No sure if you are getting drops its fine, But i've wasted more time getting zero atma's then most people with 12 atma's its just no fun at all.'
And i can give countless suggestions how to make it better,

1. With every 10 fates increase drop % on this atma ?
1b. Maybe some sort of chain bonus?

2. Remove the fate grind and make it a dungeon/trial grind people enjoy that alot more then random fates(Have to increase drop rate a bit since dungeons take alot longer obviously)
2b. Chain bonus again If completed within X minutes/hour you get a 10-20% drop rate bonus or w/e

Stuff like that will make it more bearable, and more FUN Something that this quest doesn't have at all

30 hours+ in.

[Jeho]

I didn't read all the comments but the only question I have for people is -why are you doing this quest if you don't like it? There are other ways to get weapons; no one is forcing you to farm atmas. I hope that SE leaves the drop rate as it is so people really have to earn the atma weapon considering getting a relic zenith really wasn't much of a challenge. And just for context sake, I paid my dues -37 hours later I have my sphairai atma. I love its new look and the FATE grinding was totally worth it in my opinion.

Now to farm more myth tomes for the book....

[Blitzace]

Then i suggest you reed some comments, Seriously, i haven't heard ANYTHING possitive about this part of 2.2 in the party's ive been in yet, not a single thing.
Now the rest of 2.2 is awesome, some new cool dungeons new EX modes(Love the new dances, sidequests etc etc.) can't wait to try them out. And yes, i would like to upgrade my relic so i'm more or less forced to do this boring quest.
And yes i think its unfair people get a atma drop every other hour and i'm well over 30 hours now and still haven't got one, Now i wouldn't be complaining if i would had gotten a drop after 5 hours or so, But atm i spent more time getting ZERO atma's then most people with their 12 atma's.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Then go back and read why people hate the current mechanics

[Kajidourden]

Atma/Animus are at the bottom of the list for good weapons now anyway....dont want em? Skip em....less QQ