This fate grind for the relic upgrade.

[Evileeyore]

I personally see it as a timesink, and it doesn't bother me. People can't get an uber weapon within 1 to 2 days after patch comes out, then walk around acting elite.

The item that you get from doing this stupid "time sink" is EXACTLY THE SAME. thats the pathetic part. over 100 hours of grinding for the exact same item? yeah f^ck you too square enix.

[Axlle10]

omg, people complain about timesink in getting relic upgrade, which if you havent heard is not the absolute best you can get right now, being so unaccommodating to all players. Let me make a simple breakdown for you all.

Relic upgrade = easy but time consuming if your RNG doesnt want you to have it.

EX weps = easy if you have skill to accomplish the tasks.

Upgraded Levi Wep = Skill to win and RNG to drop (only 9 available tho so...)

Coil weps = skill and RNG

So lookie there, so many other options. They are making options for EVERYONE that is fair imo. if you dont have the skill and have to grind out this stuff then its gonna take time. EVERY MMO is pretty much the same.

[Trespar]

The problem isn't so much in the mechanic of it, the problem is that it's the next step in the relic chain.

People are attached to their relics, that's why they, we, get so up in arms about it.
We don't want our rellics to be easy, but time consuming to get. We want to earn our upgrades.

If the peasants want to grinds out easy weapons, let them do it with something else than our relics.

In the end, I'm mostly upset about everybody buying into this nonsense when they could be doing Leviathan EX, which isn't even that hard of a fight.
Not nearly enough people out there even willing to try the fight, because they're too busy farming fates.