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    Quote Originally Posted by Vid View Post
    First we have to establish what your idea of BiS is for WHM. Do you prefer a Determination, Speed, or Crit build? Going to guess Determination, but each play style is different. I'm not going to be one of those people who argue which is better, I'm just curious what your play style is.

    Supposedly a "Wave Buckler" drops from Leviathan Extreme that has Spell Speed and Pie on it, not my ideal stats, but there you go.

    WHM:
    Weathered Yagrush - Personally speaking I like this weapon, has Determination and Pie and will make a great weapon to upgrade to over my Allagan cane. I plan to get this and upgrade it when we finally figure out how to do so.

    Thyrus Animus (Relic +2) - If you have the time to grind out the fates and the myth stones by all means this would be ideal for you to get first. I feel that for most people who haven't cleared Turn 5, or were just unlucky with weapon drops, would benefit more from this if they have the time to do so (or get extremely lucky with fates). The promise of being able to change the stats around at a later date intrigues me greatly, but personally speaking this will probably be the last thing on my list to obtain.

    (Tidal) Wave Wand & (Tidal) Wave Buckler - If you have the Turn 5 staff I would personally ignore these options. While you do gain raw healing power from the upgraded Tidal weapon, I feel that it won't be worth upgrading unless its something extremely simple like farming 1K Myth. All depends on what it requires to upgrade.


    SCH:
    Weathered Book of Diamonds - Speed and Pie are not the ideal stats for a SCH, but again you have to weigh in the amount of healing increase you'll get from the weapon itself. This may prove to be faster to get depending on your time constraints though. The upgrade as well will give you more raw healing power, but doesn't come with the stats you want sadly.

    Omnilex Animus (relic+2) - At least it has Determination? I feel bad for scholars due to the fact neither of your ilvl 100/110 weapons are ideal candidates, but you finally do get rewarded for the Turn 9 Book at least. As with the White Mage Relic+2, if you happen to have the time to farm Fates and Myth this would be the upgrade for you.

    (Tidal) Wave Codex - Not sure how we upgrade this weapon, but yes this would be a decent weapon as well if you can manage to farm Ex. Leviathan. Although mind you the upgrade caps out at ilvl 100 where as the Weathered items will be upgraded to ilvl 110. Once we figure out how to upgrade it, you will have to weigh your options if its ideal for you.

    If you currently have the Turn 5 Book, I would say the Omnilex Animus (relic +2) is your best option sadly. While the (Tidal) Wave Codex is also good, we don't know how to upgrade it yet, or if it will be worth it to upgrade over other options.


    Off Topic Paladin:
    This would depend on if you need the accuracy or not and what you plan to do with your paladin (or if you happen to be asking for a friend who is going to tank Turns 6-9). However both options are viable in my personal opinion.

    Curtana Animus (relic +2) - More then likely your ideal weapon in this situation, it has a high amount of Accuracy and comes with Parry. However, again, time constraints permitting this may not be ideal for the person obtaining it.

    Weathered Burtgang - A good substitute and for some people easier to obtain, comes with a decent amount of accuracy and determination. The upgrade is more of the same.

    (Tidal) Wave Shamshir - Has the highest amount of parry out of any weapon for a paladin in the game so far, with the normal version being on par with Turn 5's Parry amount. However it does not come with Accuracy, and whether or not you can farm Ex. Leviathan will be an important part to obtaining this weapon. If you currently have the Turn 5 weapon though, this would be more of a side-grade until we figured out how to upgrade it.

    Edit: Forgot about shields

    Holy Shield Animus (relic +2) - A good shield no doubt, offers the highest amount of parry on a shield before the Coil dropped one, however it does come with spell speed, which is not particularly ideal. However the amount added is miniscule and if you have the time to farm fates and myth, this will be a solid upgrade regardless.

    Weathered Noct Hoplon - The better of the two choices in my opinion if you need to cap out your Accuracy (right now we just have speculations over the cap for new coil turns). Decent amount of parry, and of course it can be upgraded as well.

    (Tidal) Wave Shield - Crit and Determination aren't exactly the best stats here, and for the most part the Turn 1 Coil Shield should prove to be more useful in this situation.
    For WHM i go DET > SS = PIE > CRIT
    For SCH i go CRIT > DET > SS = PIE

    Seems like for all the classes, relic weapon is a good choice? I can't decide which relic to start with 1st =(. The grind is so long =(.
    So I should do Yagrush for WHM, then Omnilex Animus for SCH?

    Off topic: PLD is mine, i geared/levelled PLD for fast queues =3. I should do PLD relic if I have time after completeing SCH then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XmasMint View Post
    For WHM i go DET > SS = PIE > CRIT
    For SCH i go CRIT > DET > SS = PIE

    Seems like for all the classes, relic weapon is a good choice? I can't decide which relic to start with 1st =(. The grind is so long =(.
    So I should do Yagrush for WHM, then Omnilex Animus for SCH?

    Off topic: PLD is mine, i geared/levelled PLD for fast queues =3. I should do PLD relic if I have time after completeing SCH then?
    I would say start with the class you plan to play the most, or the one you plan to take into Coil Turns 6-9. I don't know what your current gear is though for each class, do you have Relic +1 on each of these 3 classes?

    If it comes down to equal play among all 3 classes, I would say start with the Healer of your choice.

    While the weapon and shield for paladin are good, it won't make or break your situation with tanking and holding threat. You will gain a bit more Vitality though, so that's always a plus. However I feel for short term goals, these upgrades aren't needed as much. Something to aim for, but by no means something worth breaking your back over. (Again just my personal opinion)

    However, with a healer our weapon damage is directly related to our healing amount, and the more we have the better. Not to mention the extra Mind added because of the higher Ilvl weapon will give us even more raw healing power. That being said, going from Ilvl 95 to Ilvl 100 won't see that much of a difference (assuming you have the Allagan Cane from turn 5). So I feel you could pick the best option in terms of upgrades on this one. For WHM that would be the Yagrush, and for the SCH that would be the Omnilex.

    Which of course works out evenly because both require separate items entirely to obtain, so you could work on both at the same time so to speak. If you happen to finish your SCH Relic +2 first, then start on the Paladin one (or the WHM if the Yagrush seems like it will take longer to get).

    Edit:
    Keep in mind though, that Square has promised us further customization with the Relic +2 weapon, that will be released in a later patch. Which means you will be able to throw out the secondary stats of your relic for something far better, such as Crit + Det for your SCH, or Det + SS/Pie for your WHM. Getting it prepared now might not be such a bad idea.
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    Last edited by Vid; 03-29-2014 at 03:48 AM.
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