Truth about Echo

[Riardon]

I don't like the idea of the Echo buff. I understand the reasons behind the echo buff but that buff is ridiculous. Ifrit HM was the easiest Primal and with this buff you can beat it with almost closed eyes. Garuda the same. Titan HM is done with 1 run now. That buff is way overpowered. I can understand lvl 1 and and 2 but its just too much. It requires no effort at all. Don't like when contenct is so heavily nerfed. Making a bit easier I understand but this is too much. Till now I'm not very impressed by this patch. Also I don't agree how they decided to call some Primals HM. For example Leviathan was so easy that we beat it on 1st try with all group being 1st timers. It's just too easy. I know there are no drops from him or such but its just too easy for my likes. Generally the patch content seem too easy for me. A little challenge never hurt anyone. I don't say lets make everything super hard and such but from the other side its just so easy that you don't even try anymore. Also the idea with the RNG Atmas is really bad and I think almost everyone agrees with that. Anyway all these are my personal opinion. Patch 2.1 seemed better for me.

[Jinko]

Well I'm not worried at this point, if I can get a DF party and complete my Relic and I am all for it regardless of who I play with, because its unlikely I will be doing anything meaningful with those people again.

On the other hand if your FC is acting like it doesn't matter then you got bigger problems.

Maybe we could offer a suggestion to allow a Duty Finder option that allows one to go into an instance with Echo disabled. Since the manner in which it is implemented is forcing it down the throats of players that may prefer not to use it.

Then play with people who are more skilled ?

[Caraway]

Number inflation will never overcome a lack of skill. /notsurprised

[Raestloz]

I don't know, Echo helped me with Titan Ex today. Although I have to agree that the team indeed knew what to do, it's just that Echo allows us to not die as quickly and can DPS it down more quickly. Our run went up to 15% and by the time Titan is about to die, only 3 of us (1 healer and 2 DPS) are left on the platform, others got pushed off. Lucky Titan finally died

Echo doesn't make the fights easier, it just makes the fight more.... "durable"

[darkstarpoet1]

they could buff your players so high that a tank could go in and provoke to insta kill mobs and somebody would find a way to wipe the party.

[Suellen]

Wait I'm confused. I thought they were doing a slow roll out of the echo buff but the thread sounds like it's just bam max echo buff right out of the gate. You can get max 25% echo bonus on the extreme primal fights already? well that's a big ugh..... :/

[Tupsi]

Wait I'm confused. I thought they were doing a slow roll out of the echo buff but the thread sounds like it's just bam max echo buff right out of the gate. You can get max 25% echo bonus on the extreme primal fights already? well that's a big ugh..... :/

No, it's only for coil that'll have a "slow roll out".