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  1. #41
    Player
    Avatar de ispano
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    octobre 2011
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    2 753
    Character
    Melfina Amastacia
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Gilraen Voir le message
    It's not a great feature and I'm glad the developers realized this when they added iLevels. Yes, some people won't use it for discrimination but there are alot who would. Take my bard, finally hit iLevel 81. Will I be going higher? Probably not. Why? Because there's not much better than what I've already got on, that's why. If I tried, I'd lose in other stats that are a bit more important than iLevel, like accuracy. Can't hurt what I can't hit. Too many people treat iLevel like it's the only stat to worry about when it's not. It's just a representation of the average level of your gear, not the level of the stats on that gear. Maybe if people could see past all that we'd have iLevel in the examine window.
    Outside of critical things like needing your silence to not miss(and really only in coil), the dex boost on higher ilvl pieces will give you more dps than the accuracy you'd lose. Even if you had a lower ilvl piece with crit on it, the dex bonus on the higher ilvl piece can trump it.
    (0)

  2. #42
    Player
    Avatar de OnyxStrife
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    aot 2013
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    139
    Character
    Panik Cinestar
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Hvinire Voir le message
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.
    Only reason this concerns me is that you've added an ilvl requirement into the party finder already.
    (0)

  3. #43
    Player
    Avatar de PixelPirate
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    mars 2014
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    Gridania
    Messages
    130
    Character
    Hettan Rennik
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 1
    Citation Envoyé par Hvinire Voir le message
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.
    They already do this via the Party Finder, no need to help them do it even more. Good Call Square Enix!
    (3)

    P.S. This is not my main...

  4. #44
    Player Avatar de Harmonium
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    aot 2013
    Messages
    1 174
    Character
    Empereur Souther
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 50
    I would like to ask, let us see the stat, this is so boring to spy people via the lodestone.

    A Blm come in my party, i ask him if he had enough accuracy, he tell me yes, i go on the lodestone and i see he don't have at all ! So i kick him, what would happen if i let him come in floor 4 of bahamuth ? He will miss every spell and his dps would be very bad. :/ Would be better to already put a accuracy check on party finder. You can cheat the ilvl so easy @ring etc ilvl 90 and when you are in the party or something this is ok, you are in, you are useless for sure, but you don't care :/ Something sould be done about that.
    (1)

  5. #45
    Player
    Avatar de Grimmies
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    septembre 2013
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    21
    Character
    Grim Tela
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par ispano Voir le message
    That's like saying if someone looks in your direction, they see empty space unless you allow them to see you.
    No. I just don't want people to judge how good I actually am at playing based on a few lower level pieces of gear that i haven't gotten the opportunity to change because people don't give me the opportunity to get better gear. Letting people view your gear just gives them the chance to moan and kick you for nothing. Glamor + getting a prompt allow/don't allow would help a lot.
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  6. #46
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    Avatar de Tupsi
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    fvrier 2012
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    3 149
    Character
    Odsarzol Que
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par Zirael_Foxfire Voir le message
    Now, that's just paranoid. Who ever said people want to make setup decisions exclusively based on iLv?
    Anyone who's first MMORPG isn't FFXIV ARR?


    Citation Envoyé par Harmonium Voir le message
    I would like to ask, let us see the stat, this is so boring to spy people via the lodestone.

    A Blm come in my party, i ask him if he had enough accuracy, he tell me yes, i go on the lodestone and i see he don't have at all ! So i kick him, what would happen if i let him come in floor 4 of bahamuth ? He will miss every spell and his dps would be very bad. :/ Would be better to already put a accuracy check on party finder. You can cheat the ilvl so easy @ring etc ilvl 90 and when you are in the party or something this is ok, you are in, you are useless for sure, but you don't care :/ Something sould be done about that.
    You do know the lodestone doesn't update in real time, right? This is exactly why they won't show it on examine - People who do exactly this.
    (4)

  7. #47
    Player
    Avatar de PotatoSalad
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    avril 2012
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    Unexplored Twelveswood
    Messages
    210
    Character
    Chichibi Chibi
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Chevalier noir Lv 60
    Look at all the arguing Yoshidas!
    (1)

  8. #48
    Player Avatar de Harmonium
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    aot 2013
    Messages
    1 174
    Character
    Empereur Souther
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 50
    Yes and no. I check his stuff and lodestone for sure... If i see difference i go on gear calculator take more time but then i have the real stat for his class. But guys you can have a full ilvl 90 with no accuracy at All ! I see lot of them so this is boring to check them. They should look their cap or take food. And guys i judge no one, i prefer a ilvl 77 with his accuracy cap than a ilvl90 with no accuracy if you see what i mean. If you come and are useless this is don't respect the people you play with. Thanks for understand all i mean and have a good day.
    (0)

  9. #49
    Player
    Avatar de Kresciel
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    aot 2013
    Messages
    37
    Character
    Arisa Myrrh
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Élémentaliste Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par Harmonium Voir le message
    Yes and no. I check his stuff and lodestone for sure... If i see difference i go on gear calculator take more time but then i have the real stat for his class. But guys you can have a full ilvl 90 with no accuracy at All ! I see lot of them so this is boring to check them. They should look their cap or take food. And guys i judge no one, i prefer a ilvl 77 with his accuracy cap than a ilvl90 with no accuracy if you see what i mean. If you come and are useless this is don't respect the people you play with. Thanks for understand all i mean and have a good day.
    Some people have a 0 accuracy set to do non-coil stuff.
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  10. #50
    Player
    Avatar de Sapphic
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    octobre 2013
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    2 308
    Character
    Sapphic Meow
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Moine Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Harmonium Voir le message
    I would like to ask, let us see the stat, this is so boring to spy people via the lodestone.

    A Blm come in my party, i ask him if he had enough accuracy, he tell me yes, i go on the lodestone and i see he don't have at all ! So i kick him, what would happen if i let him come in floor 4 of bahamuth ? He will miss every spell and his dps would be very bad. :/ Would be better to already put a accuracy check on party finder. You can cheat the ilvl so easy @ring etc ilvl 90 and when you are in the party or something this is ok, you are in, you are useless for sure, but you don't care :/ Something sould be done about that.
    You've heard of food buffs havn't you?

    Heres something that doesn't show on lodestone http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Stuffed_Cabbage. Also, it isnt imposible (I do) to have gear to swap around for coil accuracy, and less acc gear for other things where acc isnt needed...
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