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    ispano's Avatar
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    It's not a great feature and I'm glad the developers realized this when they added iLevels. Yes, some people won't use it for discrimination but there are alot who would. Take my bard, finally hit iLevel 81. Will I be going higher? Probably not. Why? Because there's not much better than what I've already got on, that's why. If I tried, I'd lose in other stats that are a bit more important than iLevel, like accuracy. Can't hurt what I can't hit. Too many people treat iLevel like it's the only stat to worry about when it's not. It's just a representation of the average level of your gear, not the level of the stats on that gear. Maybe if people could see past all that we'd have iLevel in the examine window.
    Outside of critical things like needing your silence to not miss(and really only in coil), the dex boost on higher ilvl pieces will give you more dps than the accuracy you'd lose. Even if you had a lower ilvl piece with crit on it, the dex bonus on the higher ilvl piece can trump it.
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    Player Harmonium's Avatar
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    Empereur Souther
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I would like to ask, let us see the stat, this is so boring to spy people via the lodestone.

    A Blm come in my party, i ask him if he had enough accuracy, he tell me yes, i go on the lodestone and i see he don't have at all ! So i kick him, what would happen if i let him come in floor 4 of bahamuth ? He will miss every spell and his dps would be very bad. :/ Would be better to already put a accuracy check on party finder. You can cheat the ilvl so easy @ring etc ilvl 90 and when you are in the party or something this is ok, you are in, you are useless for sure, but you don't care :/ Something sould be done about that.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonium View Post
    I would like to ask, let us see the stat, this is so boring to spy people via the lodestone.

    A Blm come in my party, i ask him if he had enough accuracy, he tell me yes, i go on the lodestone and i see he don't have at all ! So i kick him, what would happen if i let him come in floor 4 of bahamuth ? He will miss every spell and his dps would be very bad. :/ Would be better to already put a accuracy check on party finder. You can cheat the ilvl so easy @ring etc ilvl 90 and when you are in the party or something this is ok, you are in, you are useless for sure, but you don't care :/ Something sould be done about that.
    You've heard of food buffs havn't you?

    Heres something that doesn't show on lodestone http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Stuffed_Cabbage. Also, it isnt imposible (I do) to have gear to swap around for coil accuracy, and less acc gear for other things where acc isnt needed...
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    Chichibi Chibi
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Look at all the arguing Yoshidas!
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    Player Harmonium's Avatar
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    Empereur Souther
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Yes and no. I check his stuff and lodestone for sure... If i see difference i go on gear calculator take more time but then i have the real stat for his class. But guys you can have a full ilvl 90 with no accuracy at All ! I see lot of them so this is boring to check them. They should look their cap or take food. And guys i judge no one, i prefer a ilvl 77 with his accuracy cap than a ilvl90 with no accuracy if you see what i mean. If you come and are useless this is don't respect the people you play with. Thanks for understand all i mean and have a good day.
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    Arisa Myrrh
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonium View Post
    Yes and no. I check his stuff and lodestone for sure... If i see difference i go on gear calculator take more time but then i have the real stat for his class. But guys you can have a full ilvl 90 with no accuracy at All ! I see lot of them so this is boring to check them. They should look their cap or take food. And guys i judge no one, i prefer a ilvl 77 with his accuracy cap than a ilvl90 with no accuracy if you see what i mean. If you come and are useless this is don't respect the people you play with. Thanks for understand all i mean and have a good day.
    Some people have a 0 accuracy set to do non-coil stuff.
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    Player Harmonium's Avatar
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    Empereur Souther
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kresciel View Post
    Some people have a 0 accuracy set to do non-coil stuff.
    Yes and some got only one stuff, and they don't change for coil, so trust me i know what i do, when someone come and i look his stuff and see no accuracy, i ask him, you don't have enough accuracy ! He answer yes i have enough ! So i kick him out of my party, because he would be useless, but if would see his stat would be realy better to check everyone, like i said before, i don't care if you are full allagan or not, if you don't have food or the cap accuracy, you are not welcome. Seem normal for me.
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    Don Katsu
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I had a BRD join my Titan EX party. I had it set to ilvl85. I calculated his gear he was ilvl80. He put on accessories from another job to raise his ilvl. This is why it should display when we examine. It's easy to get around the party finder requirements
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    Jordan Lewis
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    Mateus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinebox View Post
    I had a BRD join my Titan EX party. I had it set to ilvl85. I calculated his gear he was ilvl80. He put on accessories from another job to raise his ilvl. This is why it should display when we examine. It's easy to get around the party finder requirements
    I'm sorry but thats a really poor example you made there, seeing his ilvl is irrelevent if he is using another classes gear to get into the party. I THINK the feature you actually are suggesting here is that if your ilvl changes while in a party with a minimum ilvl requirement if you now fall below it your removed for the party.
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    Ampersand Kai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by jlewiss View Post
    I'm sorry but thats a really poor example you made there, seeing his ilvl is irrelevent if he is using another classes gear to get into the party. I THINK the feature you actually are suggesting here is that if your ilvl changes while in a party with a minimum ilvl requirement if you now fall below it your removed for the party.
    So no more gathering/crafting/leveling other classes/spiritbonding while you're waiting around for the party to fill. Join a PF and be doomed to just standing around doing nothing until the rare role du jour happens by.
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