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    Cetra's Avatar
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    Ali Winchester
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.
    Exactly how it should be done. Thank you.
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    Player MurakumoMillennium's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.
    In community rep world, ilvl requirements for dungeons and party finder doesn't exist apparently.

    Also put down the torches people, adding ilvl to examine won't suddenly make people get discriminated against. It would be a great feature to have, and if you can't understand why then you're the type who won't get into groups based on gear regardless of if people can see your ilvl or not.
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    Panik Cinestar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.
    Only reason this concerns me is that you've added an ilvl requirement into the party finder already.
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    Hettan Rennik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.
    They already do this via the Party Finder, no need to help them do it even more. Good Call Square Enix!
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    P.S. This is not my main...

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    Fated Erskine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.
    No problem. I know how to use a calculator. I guess most of the game's population doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.

    so happy that u guys decided not to add it. that is one of the things that made the tera community so toxic at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.
    Very glad to hear the devs were aware of this possibility!

    The World of Warcraft community became very toxic and judgmental over item levels after the Gearscore addon was released. I am hoping that average item levels not only remain hidden, but that when addons are supported there will not be anything allowed that automatically calculates and displays other players' item levels, either. If you really want to know what your party members are wearing, feel free to examine them. But elitism should not be easily encouraged.

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    Anubis Kuro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    The team refrained from making another player's average ilvl visible upon examination to avoid players making party setup decisions based exclusively on the average ilvls of their teammates.
    This statement makes no sense whatsoever when the game has a party finder with item level. The "discrimination" occurs on the party finder, not on the examination. No one ever makes a party by examining another player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignacioricci View Post
    This statement makes no sense whatsoever when the game has a party finder with item level. The "discrimination" occurs on the party finder, not on the examination. No one ever makes a party by examining another player.
    You've never tried to join a manually formed party lead by eliteists have you?
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    No, but anyway:

    What is really the trade-off? Instead of spending 1 sec viewing the item level, spend 10 checking every piece?
    Want it or not, if you can see all the pieces, you can know the item level.
    So, the feature per-se is not adding any new information, is just less time consuming.

    That's why it makes no sense to me.
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