This fate grind for the relic upgrade.

[SlipperyToy]

Why? 50fates in the same area, still no drop.....middle finger your way squeenix. This is stupid.

[Blitzace]

i think alot of people are really dissapointed with this, i really love the new content, but the story quest were SO dull. basicly i runned around for hours to fight leviathan. which i won on my 1st try, Thats something i never did in XI story line. Its made way to easy in my opinion. And then we have the relic upgrade, which i spend over 7 hours farming now without one single drop. Its just very dull, and its not the 7 hours not getting a drop, its the 7 hours doing low level fates what bothers me. There is no progression nor real fun for me, and not even a remote challenge.

[MercuryD]

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Maybe it's because I love this game's world and lore but I loved the story missions. And Leviathan (story) was a 1 shot, yeah, but you need to account for the fact a large amount of the playerbase is massively overgeared for it. My group, for example, were all i90. 8 i90 vs an encounter designed for i60? That's tons weaker than even t1 or any of the ex. EX Levi should be fun. (Though I was disappointed with the lack of rail destruction in hm)

[Jaybot]

I seriously HATE this new ATMA FATE grinding bull****. I enjoyed the new content, but I will not grind a thousand fates just for a single drop. I know I will eventually become bored of this, and bored quickly. Square, you need to raise the drop rate or something.

[melisande]

I agree, this is so broken. We all love a good grind and challenging content, unfortunately FATE's (especially low level) I have no passion for, and I don't see how anyone could.

[Urtear]

I personally see it as a timesink, and it doesn't bother me. People can't get an uber weapon within 1 to 2 days after patch comes out, then walk around acting elite.

[Azmaria]

I personally see it as a timesink, and it doesn't bother me. People can't get an uber weapon within 1 to 2 days after patch comes out, then walk around acting elite.

A timesink is all well and good, but this rng based one is just plain stupid, the way it is there are people who can get it done in just 1 sitting while many others are forced 10 hours without seeing one.

[Kabooa]

I personally see it as a timesink, and it doesn't bother me. People can't get an uber weapon within 1 to 2 days after patch comes out, then walk around acting elite.

Except people have gotten it by now, not by virtue of overcoming something by their own ability, but that their digital dice rolled right.

[seraseth]

It's not just the long grind, which would be ok by itself, it's it being totally random. It's not equal between players. Player A can get lucky and get all 12 in 1/10th the time and work Player B has to put in.

[Delorean]

Well, on the bright side, if there is a bright side... If you like achievements and stuff like that and don't have FATE related achievements, you will probably put a nice dent in them by doing this.