
Or people can loosen their coin purse and spend some gil... we are crafters after all and the rich elite ....Did everyone forget that the old Philosophy Tome materials drop from the new dungeons? And they seem to all drop 8 at a time. There's no reason anybody should be spending close to 800,000 seals on these things. Just wait until the prices for these things bottom out on the Market Board.
This is like complaining that there's 9 new armor sets for DoW and DoM and complaining it'll take forever to get them all.

What annoyed me about the patch was we were promised bigger inventory and armour chest (im gonna find the post from after 2.1 where its mentioned just to make sure) and instead we get to buy (with real money) an extra retainer - thats the only let down for me so far to be honest.


I just spent 2 dollars on an extra retainer and freeing up all that inventory space was amazing. Pretty much the same thing they did in final fantasy 11 when we paid one dollar per alt so we could mule gear over to them. Sorry you're bummed on it, but that 2 dollars fixed my inventory issues, and that is fine by me.What annoyed me about the patch was we were promised bigger inventory and armour chest (im gonna find the post from after 2.1 where its mentioned just to make sure) and instead we get to buy (with real money) an extra retainer - thats the only let down for me so far to be honest.


work... in a game? wait don't we normally play a game? not work in a game.
i think a lot of you simply want to place artificial wall like grind or RNG (zodiac). this is not challenge, this is not a feeling of accomplishement... but a feeling i must log in the game for work.
it's sad that SE did follow the demand of a part of the community that see the game more than a work than a game. but well i will still play the game, not work the game.
at all the one that say that it great and that all must ask hard work...i will say this, you maybe need to check the definition of a game and think a bit if you are still "playing" the game.


Maybe I should, but then again, I am paying to log in to play something I enjoy, you are paying to log in to play something you don't enjoy. Who seems like the fool in that situation?work... in a game? wait don't we normally play a game? not work in a game.
i think a lot of you simply want to place artificial wall like grind or RNG (zodiac). this is not challenge, this is not a feeling of accomplishement... but a feeling i must log in the game for work. it's sad that SE did follow the demand of a part of the community that see the game more than a work than a game. but well i will still play the game, not work the game.
at all the one that say that it great and that all must ask hard work...i will say this, you maybe need to check the definition of a game and think a bit if you are still "playing" the game.
I've been looking for content like this, I am happy. A shame you are going to continue to pay to play when you are not. I can't wait to down Leviathan, get my new weapon while working on upgrading my relic while trying new turns of coil.


I do think the price (essentially at least 45 of whatever ex-philo item) for the mastery books is a bit much.. but everything else you listed I'm actually fine with. The only one true thing that bugs me this patch is that I seem to be back to FATE grinding a lot just to get over a hurdle so I can get to what I would consider the "fun" grind.
^ but at that point why play an MMO (RPG) there are plenty of other titles now a days that can fill the short term need. Diablo 3, Borderlands, League of legends, Dota, Loadout, Team Fortress, etc.
I mean if you are a fan of mmos you would be deluding yourself to think they are only about short term goals and quick fixes.
They're not walls. They're hurdles and challenges and CONTENT for the player to overcome. That's what makes you a good PLAYER and that's what makes these items more VALUABLE. They learned because of the Relic quest being too easy. everyone has a relic. Suddenly feels less valuable doesn't it? You're from 1.0. When you'd see someone with a relic before you had one, it was a sight. You'd check it out...say wow, I can't wait to get mine. 2.0, You get relics in a day. I welcome the time consuming quests. We're JUST getting started too! So don't cry too hard.
2.1...First time was not an accident. We were told the housing was going to be expensive. I expected these prices. You think these are bad? Go check out Aion's housing prices. That was a few years ago when I checked, so who knows what they are now.But I do know this. First time's an accident, second time's a coincidence, third time something is seriously wrong. Housing prices were an accident. All the walls preventing us from getting at the new stuff in 2.2? That's a coincidence. If 2.3 ends up being just as frustrating, that will mark a trend. A very, very bad trend.
2.2 was not a coincidence, you're just a baby because you want an "instant gratification button." A trend I'm starting to see more and more in "gamers" these days...and I do not like it.
2.3 Sorry to say will probably frustrate you further, especially if you put no effort into 2.2. No it will not mark a trend, it'll be the mark of a good MMO.
It's only going to get more complex as time goes on. I assure you. I run a small FC. We wanted a medium size house. We couldn't make the money in time for the plot we wanted. We went with a small house. And we're happy with it. Didn't see any of us on here complaining and crying and whining and calling the wambulance because we couldn't afford the medium size house.
So shape up, stop whining like a baby, and play the game. The amount of time you took to type your entire OP you could have already started your new relic quest and unlocked the 3 new dungeons.
Ah I see, mindlessly grinding fates is what makes you a good player. Thanks for the clarification. I thought killing chimera, hydra and all three HM primals would make me a better player but I was wrong. Fate grinding will make us better players!They're not walls. They're hurdles and challenges and CONTENT for the player to overcome. That's what makes you a good PLAYER and that's what makes these items more VALUABLE. They learned because of the Relic quest being too easy. everyone has a relic. Suddenly feels less valuable doesn't it? You're from 1.0. When you'd see someone with a relic before you had one, it was a sight. .
Thank you SE for making getting a relic "Harder" because you know it takes quite a bit of skill to dot up a few fate mobs then go take a dump while you wait for it to end.
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