Master Crafting - Having to Re-Meld Gear?

[Adoxx]

So correct me if I am wrong but I just unlocked the Master Crafting recipes for Weaver and the following stats are the minimum requirements:

Craftmanship: 391
Control: 374

Now with current gear, the new Weapon (139 Craft and 78 Control) and Head (3 CP, 4 Craft and 39 Control) will easily take Craftmanship up to the requirement but will still leave Control quite far from just the requirement.

So am I wrong in assuming new melds are going to be needed to not only reach the requirement but getting even a slight chance at HQ (no way we are getting 100% like now). Anyone have any thoughts?

[FJerome]

Well, a slight chance at HQ if we're using all-NQ mats. I don't think it's entirely a bad thing if we have to actually have to go get HQ mats to HQ the recipe.

[Adoxx]

That is true, might be nice for a change. I am just upset that even though they only released two items (neither of which are meldable) I am still going to have to re-meld any of my level 50 crafting classes just in order to be able to craft it NQ.

[Lyrinn]

How did you do your melds? I thought there was only one way to do them (cap everything, off-hand is the only variation). I'm at 386/374 so I'm hitting the control requirement but not the craftsmanship.

[Adoxx]

Is that how your current gear is melded?! I only melded mine to 357 Craft and 344 Control in order to get 100% HQ on current 2 Star items. You did some crazy melding if that is what yours is at without the new gear.

[Lyrinn]

Actually, that is with the new gear.



Everything is overmelded to caps except off-hand (which is only +4 Control, no overmelds). I could overmeld +6 craft to it but it's a pain.

[Kenji1134]

Yeah... something seems a bit off...
No new crafting gear... well, barely any new crafting gear, and a massive jump in recipe difficulty.
I can understand wanting us to want to start with HQ components to get HQ results... but this is... just a wee bit much no?

[Adoxx]

I realized if I eat food (duh) then I can get up to the requirements in order to make them NQ. So I guess that will have to due for the mean time. Anyways, can I ask where you got your cookie cutter melding guide at? I would like to compare to my own currently to make any adjustments if I need to.

Also, I don't suppose you would share with me your rotation you used in which you were able to get the new 2 star item HQ'd would you? At the rate I am going I am going to make a thousand before I get the 50 HQ! Haha!

[Lyrinn]

http://disciplesoftheland.com/GuideView.aspx?gid=23

And I may have cheated and used HQ mats (I stockpiled during 2.1).

Edit: False alarm, I derped and missed 5 craft on my body piece. Full overmelds minus off-hand gives you the exact minimums for 3 stars.

[Shyzune_Nymuro]

It's kind of ridiculous. People on coeurl arent even really trying them. It's insanely hard to do. You need so much skill you have to be max melded, with amazing food, other level 50 skills, and hq materials just to MAYBE HQ something. I posted elsewhere about how they should lower requirements. Materia isnt cheal everywhere. Some of the stuff i need is 50k for one. I could potentially lose over 500k just trying to over meld to one spot. I thi k it should be about 375 crafts and 360 control. Would still be hard to get to, but possible.