RIP Pharos, we'll hardly miss ye...

[Segraine]

SE should have left Pharos as it was and changed the ilevel requirements, drops. I failed the dungeon often at first, but I stuck it out and greatly improved as a healer. I enjoyed hot joining that dungeon. It is good to be challenged. It is the only way to improve.

[Ghishlain]

If you had issues in Pharos, how do you plan to heal Coil?

And tbh, difficulty is its own reward.

I agree, difficulty is its own reward. I personally relished the fact every time I got Pharos in DR (I even que'd Pharos when FC mates got it as their DR and their healer dropped).

I will admit though, I find Pharos to be harder to heal for due to the amount of mechanics to consider in the Siren fight compared to Coil in general (though I will also admit that I haven't seen T5 past P2 either). Coil to me is mostly spam heal FTW, with some mechanics to consider on occasion such as Rot passing in T2 and how to control enmity in P6 T4.

[Vid]

If you had issues in Pharos, how do you plan to heal Coil?

And tbh, difficulty is its own reward.

The only issue I had in Pharos was Solo Duty Finder or Roulette. Even explaining the mechanics to people didn't seem to help most of the time. I have no problem going in with my friends and just wrecking the place in 20 to 30 minutes. However Duty Finder has proved to take up to an hour if not longer in trying to complete this dungeon. I'm not saying it should have been nerfed, but if square's goal is to make the dungeons more of a casual player experience, then they went about it the wrong way for this dungeons boss mechanics.

However healing Coil is typically done with a persons FC of equally skilled people (hopefully), that will use vent, TS, etc. to communicate with in real time. The amount of organization going into Coil is typically far better planned then just throwing yourself at the whims of Duty Finder to find people that may not be as geared trying to kill a boss they have no idea about.

The two are completely separate beasts.

[cearka]

I loved old pharos. I loved the challenge. I never bailed on DF when I got it in roulette, and coached many new to PS players through it as a tank.
I have yet to do the new pharos, but if it's much easier, I'll be a little sad.

[GaiaGuardian]

Pre 2.2, I had only done Pharos twice completely, due to not doing Duty Roulette that often and people dropping almost as soon as the dungeon began. Being a Scholar as well, I should have disliked it, but I actually enjoyed it a lot!

That being said, I never had a big problem with the dungeon, other than the first boss. As long as people knew where to stand, I was fine. The second and "third" boss were easy, and Siren never gave me any trouble. (Yes, I'm that guy who has never died to Siren.) The nerf is sort of unwelcome, but I can see the need for it due to so many people having trouble with it in the first place.

Just going to wait a few days until the whining about Amdapor becomes rampant haha. I see another dungeon being nerfed in the near future.

[Skander]

Has lost city been getting heat for difficulty? Haven't had the chance to run it yet, but I've heard mostly the opposite.

[Vid]

Lost city was fairly easy when I ran it last night, but mind you I had the help of my FC and we're all ilvl 90 with Allagan weapons. I rather enjoyed it though. The only thing I didn't like was the the amount of damage the poison did, but doesn't change my opinion about the place. Required some thought for the boss fights, but nothing overly difficult. The other HM's though were pretty much a joke with our gear levels.

[Gares]

Sorry but Pharos before the patch was fine. I feel your pain about it being hard as a healer but I changed and ran it as a tank and had no problem. If you had a bard in your party too it should have been a cakewalk.

Silence the healing debug everytime and it was easy long as you knew where and when to run

[Gares]

Lost City is a cakewalk too the only hard part is the last boss and the doors and as long as someone knows and marks the doors properly it's easy

[melflomil]

I did this when it first came out. I think I was a level 75 WHM. The pug group I joined beat it. If you can heal through that you can heal ANYTHING.