Big Fish and you: What bait is needed when to land the big one

[Huckster]

Just wanted to confirm that it was impossible for me to catch Beguiler Chub with 334 gathering (burnt like 350 Moth Pupas) - when I used food (gathering 339) I got it within 20 tries.

[Ultimatecalibur]

You might be right but why are Navigator's Brand fish out with a yumizuno then?

Because any ocean bait of level 15 (Rat tails) or greater has a chance of hooking Navigator's Daggers and Yumizuno is a level 48 ocean lure?

[Huckster]

Info from gamerescape.com:

Carp Diem - Caddisfly Larva- NOT confirmed - used ~200 baits and 0 catches. it doesnt fish moat carp at all too.
Armorer - Northern Krill - Daytime - 334 gathering (confirmed)

I'll verify that.

[zigholliday]

Just wanted to confirm that it was impossible for me to catch Beguiler Chub with 334 gathering (burnt like 350 Moth Pupas) - when I used food (gathering 339) I got it within 20 tries.

Not sure if you know, but some of the new gathering nodes have a perception requirement you must meet to gather them. Perhaps some of the fish may be the same. Is the food you are using giving you extra perception or just gathering?

[Desidious]

Just wanted to confirm that it was impossible for me to catch Beguiler Chub with 334 gathering (burnt like 350 Moth Pupas) - when I used food (gathering 339) I got it within 20 tries.

I got a miss at 355 gathering going after the gudgeon. Was totally blown away.

[zigholliday]

The Ghost Carp is driving me mad. Going by the other catches you might think that a crow fly would catch this fish. I have caught quite a few tri-colored carp. Fished Day and Night Rain, Fog and Sunshine. It is pretty hard to do a really good sample because the weather only lasts a limited time. So maybe I missed the perfect combo when trying other baits. Anyone else working on this one?

[Huckster]

The Ghost Carp is driving me mad. Going by the other catches you might think that a crow fly would catch this fish. I have caught quite a few tri-colored carp. Fished Day and Night Rain, Fog and Sunshine. It is pretty hard to do a really good sample because the weather only lasts a limited time. So maybe I missed the perfect combo when trying other baits. Anyone else working on this one?

What's your gathering / perc?

[Huckster]

I've started researching Japanese fishers - it seems they have a lot info on the missing fish! Here goes!

Syldra - Cedarwood - Spoon Worm - Rain - Night/Day - gathering 346
Blue Widow - Murmur Rills - Floating Minnow - Daytime
Mud Pilgrim - Midge Basket - night - rain (easy to get)
Marrow Sucker - Syrphid Basket - night - rain (a few "gets away" here - kinda like Rivet Oyster)
Judgeray - Wildfowl Fly - 17-20 - sunny (needs LOADS of gathering)
Dark Ambusher - Sweetbloom Pier - Moth Pupa - Night - Sunny - Mooched from Striped Goby
Crystal Perch - Woad Whisper Canyon - Butterworm - Night - Cloudy
Oschon's Print - Moraby Bay - Goby Balls - Day/Night - Rain
Glimmerscale - Nophica's Wells - Butterworm - Day - Clear
Slime King - lower Soot Creek - Crayfish Ball - Night - Duststorm
Dark Knight - Unholy Heir - Crow Fly - Day / Fog
Dream Goby - upper Soot Creek - Crayfish Ball - Night - Clear
Caterwauler - Mourning Widow - Moth Pupa - Day/Night - Rain
High Perch - Nym River - Sinking Minnow - 5-7am - Wind
Carp Diem - upper Black Tea Brook - Crow Fly - Day - Fog
Fairy Queen - Empty Heart - Spinnerbait - Day - Cloudy/Wind
Ghost Carp - Mirror - Butterworm - Night - Rain
Mud Golem - Footfalls - Butterworm - Night - Clear
Old Softie - Clutch - Bloodworm - 5-8pm - Dust
Matron Carp - Whispering Gorge - Bloodworm - 3-6pm - Cloudy

And that's it - 37/37! Need to catch them all

[TohruHonda]

I'm fishing up NQ Silvers with 303 gathering/230 perception. No HQ's after 2 days of trying, is it possible with such low perception? I don't really have the money to attempt triple melds on my AF.

[hihimo]

Its the gathering thats to low, to get hq silver it must be over 170ilms, think you need around 310isch to catch a very small hq. even at 324 i lost the occational one, somewhere over 174ils, the highest i got with 324. 301 is to catch a silver nq.