Big Fish and you: What bait is needed when to land the big one

[Huckster]

My bad, this whole Yoshi thing is throwing me off pretty badly xD. But yeah, that you can catch these with lower level bait/lures makes things interesting. I was trying for Jacques the Snipper today. Went two ingame days using both yumis and n. krill, all weathers, and nothing. Not even a bite. Guess I'll have to expand to try other lures now.

I was trying to catch Jacques too using Pill Bug, Rat Tail, Goby Ball - mooched Ocean Cloud and Harbor Herring - no luck too - yet.

[Desidious]

Junkmonger

Lugworm - Merlthor Goby (hq mooch) - wahoo (hq mooch)

Skull Valley : 5:30pm Eorza Time : Fair Weather

[Desidious]

Chirurgeon

Moth Pupa - Striped Goby (hq mooch)

The Vein : 5:30am Eorza time : Fair weather

[hihimo]

About silver soverign, seems like the limit to hq is very close to or exactly 170ilms, at 310 gathering i got 1 hq weighing 170.x, after boosting it to 319 i got hq up to 173, migh be abe to catch bigger but its a start, I though maybe we can figure out what gathering is needed to catch x ilms

[Desidious]

I can confirm the Rivet Oyster can be caught in the rain and at night. Only one miss and a total of 17 casts and caught the little big guy.

[KingZeus]

I can confirm the Rivet Oyster can be caught in the rain and at night. Only one miss and a total of 17 casts and caught the little big guy.

which lure/bait did you use though?

[Desidious]

which lure/bait did you use though?

Heavy Iron Jig

[KingZeus]

Heavy Iron Jig

i wonder why i had so many misses with those high stats

[Desidious]

i wonder why i had so many misses with those high stats

That wonderful RNG.

On a side note, I'm about to lose my mind with the rest of these straight catches. I have like 2 1/2 pages of different lures and bait and haven't even gone through them all to try them.

[Huckster]

I think that the gathering level required for catching a certain fish is correlated with its item level. And assuming that Silver Sovereign needs 301+ gathering and Rivet Oyster was caught with 356+ gathering I think we can make a hypothesis that:
ilvl70 - minimum gathering / perception - 251+:
Beguiler Chub
Bloody Brewer
Carp Diem
Caterwauler
Chirurgeon
Dream Goby
Gigantshark
Glimmerscale
Goldenfin
Great Gudgeon
High Perch
Matron Carp
Navigator's Brand
Octomammoth
Oschon's Printa
Stormdancer
Zalera

ilvl75 - minimum gathering / perception - 301+:
Armorer
Jacques The Snipper
Mud Golem
Old Softie
Sabertooth Cod
Silver Sovereign
Slime King
Syldra

ilvl80 - minimum gathering / perception - 351+:
Blue Widow
Crystal Perch
Dark Ambusher
Dark Knight
Faerie Queen
Ghost Carp
Judgeray
Junkmonger
Marrow Sucker
Moldva
Mud Pilgrim
Rivet Oyster

Maybe the spread (250/300/350) is not that wide (eg 290/300/310) - but I think the mechnics behind it works like that. (when you compare fishing to crafting for example)