Big Fish and you: What bait is needed when to land the big one

[LlenCoram]

Instead of continuing in that other thread, let's just put them all in here. Fellow pullers of Eorzea, we've got new wavekin to conquer. I'll use this as a compendium of knowledge until the other big hitters get to it (C'mon DoL.com).

Important: The gathering stat listed here is entirely theoretical. I choose what to write based on what I know from the fine pullers submitting their catches in this thread. It's fair to say that all of these fish need more than 300, and the more the better. Example: You can catch a Silver Sovereign with 301 gathering, but you'll lose a bunch of them. Get your gathering stat as high as you can. If a catch can't be made with a stat listed here (or indeed for any of the parameters listed here) I'll update with the new information as I get it.

Done! I'll keep updating the list as certain parameters become more clear with time. Thank you everyone who participate, and happy pulling!

Torquere made a list with more information and a better layout! Click here!

Now organized for easier pulling!

• The format is fish, place, time, weather, bait, gathering stat, and whether it's a mooch or not
  
  La Noscea
  Limsa Lominsa
• Goldenfin - Limsa Upper decks - Daytime - Cloudy, Rain - Pill Bug - 345+ Straight Catch
• Octomammoth - Limsa Lower decks - Daytime - Clear - Lugworms - 301+ - Mooch from Merlthor Goby
  
  Middle La Noscea
• Zalera - Zephyr Drift - Daytime - Fair - Rat Tails - 335+ - Straight Catch
• Beguiler Chub - Rogue River - Daytime - Fair - Moth Pupa - 335+ - Straight Catch
• Great Gudgeon - West Agelyss River - Daytime - Clear, Fog - Crayfish Ball - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Gigantshark - Summerford - All day - Clear, Fair - Lugworms - 301+ - Mooch from Harbor Herring, Merlthor Goby, Ogre Barracuda
• High Perch - Nym River - All day (caught 5 to 7am) - Clear, Fair, Windy, Cloudy, Rain - Sinking Minnow - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Crystal Perch - Woad Whisper Canyon - Night - Cloudy - Butterworm - 301+ - Straight Catch
  
  Lower La Noscea
• Caterwauler - Mourning Widow - All Day - Rain - Moth Pupa - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Oschon's Print - Moraby Bay - All Day - Clear, Rain - Goby Balls - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Syldra - Cedarwood - All day - Rain - Spoon Worm - 339+ - Straight Catch
• Silver Sovereign - Oschon's Torch - All day - All weather - Yumizuno - 301+ - Straight catch
• Sabertooth Cod - Candlekeep Quay - All Day - Clear - Rat Tail, Goby Ball - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Jaques the Snipper - Moraby Drydocks - 9pm to 3am - All weather - Rat Tails, Goby Ball - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Fairy Queen - Empty Heart - Daytime - Cloudy, Windy - Spinnerbait - 351+ - Straight Catch
  
  Western La Noscea
• Armorer - Swiftperch - All day (More common at night?) - All weather - Northern Krill - 334+ - Straight Catch
• Junkmonger - Skull Valley - All day - Fair - Lugworm, Rat tails - 311+ - Mooch from Merlthor Goby, double mooch goby to wahoo
• Navigator's Brand - Brewer's Beacon - 9am to 1pm - Clear - Yumizuno - 290+ - Straight catch
  
  The Black Shroud
  Gridania
• Storm Dancer - Jadeite Flood - Night - Rain - Stem Borer - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Bloody Brewer - Lower Black Tea Brook - Daytime - Fair - Crayfish Balls - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Matron Carp - Whispering Gorge - Daytime (caught 3 to 9pm) - Clear, Fair, Cloudy - Bloodworm - 301+ - Straight
• Carp Diem - Upper Black Tea Brook - Daytime - Fog - Crow Fly - 301+ - Straight Catch
  
  Central Shroud
• Chirurgeon - The Vein - Daytime - Clear, Fair, Cloudy, Rain - Moth pupa - 301+ - Mooch from Striped Goby
• Ghost Carp - The Mirror - Night - Rain - Butterworm - 301+ - Straight Catch
  
  East Shroud
• Dark Ambusher - Sweetbloom Pier - Night - Clear - Moth pupa - 344+ - Mooch from Striped Goby
• Moldva - Springripple Brooke - Night - Clear, Cloudy - Midge Basket - 331+ - Mooch from Ala Mhigan Fighting Fish
  
  North Shroud
• Blue Widow - Murmur Rills - Daytime - Clear, Rain - Floating Minnow - 338+ - Straight Catch
• Judgeray - Fallgourd Float - All day (caught 5 to 9pm) - Clear, Rain - Wildfowl Fly - 344+ (maybe more) - Straight Catch
  
  Thanalan
  Western Thanalan
• Glimmerscale - Nophica's Wells - Daytime - Clear - Butterworm - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Mud Golem - The Footfalls - Night - Clear - Butterworm - 310+ - Straight Catch
• Rivet Oyster - Vesper Bay - All day - Fair, Rain - Heavy Iron Jig - 356+ - Straight catch
  
  Central Thanalan
• Dream Goby - Upper Soot Creek - Night - Clear, duststorm - Crayfish Balls - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Slime King - Lower Soot Creek - Night - Dust storm, Cloudy - Crayfish balls - 357+ - Straight Catch
• Old Softie - The Clutch - All day (caught 5 to 9pm) - Cloudy, Dust, Clear, Fog - Bloodworm - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Dark Knight - Unholy Heir - Daytime - Fog, Duststorm - Crow Fly - 301+ - Straight Catch
  
  Eastern Thanalan
• Marrow Sucker - North Drybone - Night - Rain - Syrphid Basket - 301+ - Straight Catch
• Mud Pilgrim - South Drybone - Night - Rain - Midge Basket - 301+ - Straight Catch

Stats according to Huckster! Should be able to help as far as straight numbers go:

I've tried to catch the Slime King with base Gathering 342 / Perception 283 -boosted with Tomato Pie (15/6) - so 357 / 289 in total - but I got "Fish gets away..." message 3 or 4 times (the weather and bait was OK). Slimy bastard! I think I'll make a stack of Spinach Quiche (this is now the best Gathering food) and use it while fishing.

Right now the max gathering you can get is:
- from gear - 348
- from company action (Live off the Land II) - 10
- from food (Spinach Quiche HQ) - 24
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Max pimped boosted gathering as of 2.2: 382

And perception:
- from gear - 289
- from company action (What You See II) - 10
- from food (Landtrap Salad HQ) - 19
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Max pimped boosted perception as of 2.2: 318

[Percyphanie]

I have been fishing for the Navigator's Brand for a while now with no luck. Is it a straight catch or a mooch?

[LlenCoram]

It's a straight catch. A shellmate is also having bad luck, but I caught mine in about 5 minutes, on my 4th or 5th cast. Just luck I guess. Pray to the RNG gods?

[Percyphanie]

did you write down your weather conditions and time of day?

[LlenCoram]

Was clear weather, during the day.

EDIT: Heartbreak. Caught the 20 silver sovereigns I needed for the new rod, only to realise they wanted 20 HQ sovereigns. I thought I was so close ><

[Desidious]

Currently working Nophica's Well to find that mystery fish. I'm going in blind with no knowledge but I'll write down all the info I can get for the 30+ new fish.

Does anyone have a link to just these new fish? I would appreciate it.

[KingZeus]

Does anyone have a link to just these new fish? I would appreciate it.

http://xivdb.com/?search/!filters/Ik...9EQVRFRF8wOiI=
http://www.disciplesoftheland.com/fo...=7465#post7465

[Desidious]

http://xivdb.com/?search/!filters/Ik...9EQVRFRF8wOiI=
http://www.disciplesoftheland.com/fo...=7465#post7465

Awesome thanks! I really should use these more often but it's more fun finding things out by first hand experience. I had the time then that I don't have now.

[KingZeus]

are you for certain navigators brand is all day all weather? cause i've only seen comments far saying day and sunny weather

and i've fished two days with rainy/crappy weather and got no bites on it

[LlenCoram]

are you for certain navigators brand is all day all weather? cause i've only seen comments far saying day and sunny weather

and i've fished two days with rainy/crappy weather and got no bites on it

I'm not entirely sure, no. I'll change it to clear sunny then, that seems to be the common finding. Not sure why I put all day originally... Being an idiot I suppose. I can confirm that sovereigns are all day and all weathers though. Unfortunately getting this new rod is my new Luminary trial, so I'll be here until I get all 20 HQ fish.

Might be a while.