Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Mitternacht]

It really makes me laugh that people are crying about this, one day into it. Obviously never played FFXI. The 75 relics weapons took YEARS to get. YEARS to farm and save the MILLIONS of gil to buy the items!!! If you want some instant gratification go play some FTP/PTW game.

Just because one bad thing is not as bad as something else doesn't make it good.

Given how they want to throttle progression on this and only use existing mechanics there's not a lot of options in terms of implementation. However having made it say, do 50-100 FATEs in twelve different zones would still have people complaining (about grinding) but at least when someone spent time on it they'd have something to show for it. Also, the RNG is a terrible throttling mechanic since obviously some people get really really lucky and finish in a relatively trivial amount of time (there's a paladin on reddit that completed Atmas in only 10~12 hours) and some people get really really unlucky and may not see all of them two to three months from now.

Telling people to go to a F2P game... skewed lottery mechanics and insipid RNG grinds are the hallmarks of said games.

[Jonny_Tapas]

We didn't like waiting for FATES during the Lightning Event!

When we went to unlock CT we continued to say

"SE we do not want FATES tied to progression!"

Yep beastmen quests... We don't want fates here!

It's not about being long or grinding or any of that.... It's about FATES being tied to progression!

WE DON'T WANT IT!

OK?

Get it?

The only thing about this that makes me happy is we finally have to work for something... I just wish it was by some other means.

[Doo]

It really makes me laugh that people are crying about this, one day into it. Obviously never played FFXI. The 75 relics weapons took YEARS to get. YEARS to farm and save the MILLIONS of gil to buy the items!!! If you want some instant gratification go play some FTP/PTW game.

Would be nice to have some new type of "Dynamis" content to get these relics though rather than low lvl reuse fates for weapons that are suppose to be "powerful"

[Mitternacht]

First I did not liked it, but after having a good night sleep I think it is fine the way it is now. I already have 5 of them. Sometimes it dropped in 15 minutes, sometimes it took 2 hours. Deal with it. And as others said, farming 13500 mythology for the books will be much tougher.

Except you know how much myth something will get you and if you go do an instance for myth will definitely get it (give or take). There is little to no uncertainty involved.

[Taruru306]

I'm not sure they are trying to keep people playing this game or away, steal the kill from those low level players FATE, stay on the same map hours and hours and you don't even know when it's going to drop or never, people want some funny stuff, not this type of boring content, I smell the same developing strategy like Old FFXIV, I really hoping your not going to re-reborn if your developer starting developing the game toward this direction. Player like to have New Area to explore New Area to adventure, we already done so much FATE on those same looking map when we leveling 1-50, now you want us done the same thing again? if you want people keep paying you monthly fee you should provide more funning exciting content not this type boring FATE over and over again...

[Makado]

I'm glad they did this. Something optional to do (don't know why people are talking about quitting over this, its one choice and doesn't need to be done). If you don't like FATEs, don't do it. Go get your Leviathan weapon. Maybe that's a better challenge for you.
Simply put, there are options. You can fight mor difficult bosses, or you can go play in the wilds searching for Atmas. And I find it absolutely hilarious people are crying over this before the patch has been out for even 24 hours. God dammit I hate people.

[TomTom1968]

What I like to be changed is that you have to wear your Zenith weapon to get the Atma pieces. We need Grand Company seals more than ever with the latest patch so the fate grind takes care you get a good portion automatically. But I would prefer the option to make these FATES at least a tad useful besides the seals and level up my remaining classes with them. But I have to use my Level 50 character for them who receives 0 EXP all the time. This makes the grind a lot more unattractive.

[Naunet]

I can't even make use of this ridiculous quest to level alternate classes.

Apparently spamming Aero and level 10 mobs is an appropriate challenge for an endgame weapon. Why couldn't these atmas have been drops from endgame content, at the very least??

[Fynlar]

We can file this one under, "Becareful for what you ask for".

I'm pretty sure nobody was asking for ridiculous amounts of low level FATE spam to obtain level 100+ weaponry, so I don't really see your point.

[Nekodar]

I'm pretty sure nobody was asking for ridiculous amounts of low level FATE spam to obtain level 100+ weaponry, so I don't really see your point.

People were asking for a long-term goal that involved open-world grinding...
It may be that what they really wanted from this was the ability to monopolize so that other participants wouldn't be able to progress, but SE saw through that and provided the only viable way of providing the grind while preventing monopolizing with the added bonus that you get seals you can spend on buying crafting mats that are necessary to make items needed for master recipe books and new gather/crafter tools at the same time.

So yes... Be careful what you ask for.