Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[RyuDragnier]

I think what people are missing is that fate grinding is just the first step to zodiac weapons. the second quest in the zodiac saga, trial of the braves requires purchasing 9 books at 1500 myth each. each of the 9 books has several objectives that have to be completed before you can purchase the next book. you can only have one book in your possession at a time. so put the fate grinding in that context.

The sad part is if that was the first step, that would have been okay with 90% of the people complaining right now, because then we would have a goal with a guaranteed number of "This is how many you need to do of X, Y, and Z." Which means we know the amount we need, we can work to it. But with RNG and these FATEs, we could do over 200 of them in a row and never see a single atma. This was a bad idea to make this first step RNG based.

[MrSigy]

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Not really since by the time the low level player walks up to the fate, the fate is already done.
This is exactly what they SHOULD NOT HAVE done.

[Amused]

Just going to keep it short and simple... the grind for the new relic/zodiac/whateveryouwanttocallit is so painfully stupid that it makes me want to quit. If something isn't done about this I doubt I'll be sticking around. Who honestly thought this was a good idea?

[Marcusow86]

Prior to this patch, many of you were whining about how this game is boring, everything is handed to the player, nothing to do after Monday, bla bla bla.

So here's the thing, SE gave you something to work on, something that will occupy the remaining 6 days of the week. And then you lot whine again.

One advice, in the future think before u whine, SE takes this seriously.

[RyuDragnier]

Prior to this patch, many of you were whining about how this game is boring, everything is handed to the player, nothing to do after Monday, bla bla bla.

So here's the thing, SE gave you something to work on, something that will occupy the remaining 6 days of the week. And then you lot whine again.

One advice, in the future think before u whine, SE takes this seriously.

How many asked for RNG, bucko? I sure as hell did not, I asked for something skill based that will take time. Step 2 of this Relic Upgrade Quest fulfills that. But Step 1? Whoever asked for it needs to go to the Insane Asylum if they think this is fun at all.

[ApolloGenX]

I am not a huge fan of the FATE grinding... but more than anything I think it was lazy.

I get that they want people out in the world- but rather than add interesting content to achieve that- they AGAIN recycled content and made it a rng grind.

This has got to be one of the least creative means to an end I have seen design-wise. It would have made more sense to have these rng drops in new dungeons... with clickables out in the world... some sort of combo kill mobs/find stuff...basically any of the classic overused quest mechanics but with new content. Instead they just found a new reason to force people to grind content they didn't want to do....disappointing. There are some noteworthy content additions with this patch... but the "long term" stuff is really just "moar" of the same, imo.

I am starting to wonder if the only answers they have to questions are

1. Farm FATES
2. Grind tokens

The game is starting to get a very repetitive "Farmville" vibe to me.

[Delorean]

Prior to this patch, many of you were whining about how this game is boring, everything is handed to the player, nothing to do after Monday, bla bla bla.

Personally, I think more people would have had an issue with the way things were before if more people were able to actually kill titan. I think that acquiring an important reward like your class weapon should be arduous and require a lot of time - and doing FATEs until you get your item is indeed arduous and requires a lot of time... but not the right kind of time.

at 6AM on Adamantoise the number of players doing FATEs was pretty low, but I am willing to bet there are tons of players doing them and now the FATEs are over so fast that you can't even get credit on some characters. FATEs move along pretty quickly with 3 players. They are over in a flash with 30. With 50, you have a bunch of people who didn't even get credit.

No one asked for a Repeat of the Lightning Event.

[Marcusow86]

How many asked for RNG, bucko? I sure as hell did not, I asked for something skill based that will take time. Step 2 of this Relic Upgrade Quest fulfills that. But Step 1? Whoever asked for it needs to go to the Insane Asylum if they think this is fun at all.

Well, to occupy everyone's free time, they need to make you grind, bread and butter of all MMO. It is either grinding based on RNG or a set number of grind. Even if it is a set number of grind, people will still complain. Just take a look at tank forum when they are whining about the 200 times in high level dungeon grind for mount. MMO is not design for all to get the highest level of gear over night. You need to put in afford. Well, i might admit, grinding LOW level fate might be too much. May i suggest the below possible solution:-

1. Grind high end dungeon for loot that will only drop by final boss. Something like grinding nightmare (mount) from extreme.
2. Grind a set number of high end dungeon. Looking at the amount of 300-400.

How does that sound? Not good? Then what you guys expect? kill 10 oppo oppo and get your final relic?

at 6AM on Adamantoise the number of players doing FATEs was pretty low, but I am willing to bet there are tons of players doing them and now the FATEs are over so fast that you can't even get credit on some characters. FATEs move along pretty quickly with 3 players. They are over in a flash with 30. With 50, you have a bunch of people who didn't even get credit.

This is just the beginning of the patch. People rushing for them all the time. Just like when lightning event started people swarming in for the FATE, but after a week, everything cools down. Like SE mentioned, this relic thingy requires a lot of time and most people won't be able to complete it before next patch. So here you go, something collective that you can keep working on.

[alhandra]

worst idea ever and requires no skill, i mean really... these are supposed to be the most epic weapons we can get... and we have to farm dumb low lvl fates for hours on end for them

[Gormogon]

That's what time and effort is for you? Not going through new content

And that's where I stop reading. Raging and preaching at me wont fix your issues.