Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[rhemi1]

Probably unrelated, but you can get the Atma drops so long as you have ANY Zenith equipped, right? Cause I really don't want to try and do fates on my SCH if I don't have to.

[Nutz]

Not really sure what your point is with that... I don't think I have ever seen an pre-abyssea FFXI player saying they like the fate system.

The thing they might like though is that it's not given out like candy like all other item has before.

Not that I have much to add, but I played FFXI starting at the NA PS2 launch (through to just before SoA) and I enjoy the FATE system. It's not perfect, but it works better than the campaign system, for instance, though it does tend to be less entertaining/ dangerous. To be clear, I like the FATE system for casually getting exp if you're playing for short periods of time and/or might be periodically interrupted by other things.

[Kuroyasha]

People: SE we need something more difficult for relic/zenith/zodiac. Its just too easy to get which lessens the since of accomplishment.

SE: Ok.take this..*releases 2.2*

People: OMFG SE what are you doing this is ridiculous why is it so hard???!!?

.....>_>....<_<......-_-

[Doo]

So where are all the FFXI scrubs who wanted this kind of experience now?

The only similar experience is the graphics.

[Atreides]

People: OMFG SE what are you doing this is ridiculous why is it so hard???!!?

.....>_>....<_<......-_-

If it would be hard I'd welcome it, but FATEs are not hard, they are just a huge waste of time when doing them with a max lvl character.

[Nepenthe]

I never got my Ghostring/Golden Thief Bug Card!!! ;_;

OMG golden thief bug card! was never able to get it, same with the Garm Card.

I mained scholar after it was released and always felt GTB should burn D:<
But I never got my own. It hurts more that I got Atros. The art is awesome but.. but!! C'mon!

Now those were a real grind. Super camped bosses, spawning once in a million years, with.. what was it? .01% drop rate?

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As far as FATEs go, I'm not a huge fan of the way they work or grinding them or anything. Don't think that. However, in ALL honesty it turns into potayto-potahto after a while.

Grinding a regular mob, while I enjoy that giving them additional purpose, is just as menial of a task as grinding a FATE. You kill 1000 monsters, you grind 15-20 fates. The exception is that it's easier to have a huge group of people doing fates (less limited on monsters) and you can do other things between fates depending on how you go about it.

Time sinks are time sinks. If they were absurdly difficult (like Ragnarok, in our posts as examples) people would flip a brick. And that is definitely not that fun and unfitting for this particular case. But what else will you have? Something that is applicable for most people to eventually gain, is not in a dungeon (because face it, that is just as awful. pewpew boss down. CRAP it didn't drop), will not be restricted to trying once a week, and will not be burned out in the first day of the patch. There are other things, and they could still happen, but a lot of it is very similar in the long run. Make a social thing out of it or anything else you can to make the best of it.

[Psun]

I haven't even logged on yet.. but I'm really dissapointed to hear that fates are involved for the relic quest.. especially low level ones.

[Alipoprocks]

All these whiney ppl. Upgraded relic isn't even best weapon. The update isn't even out a day and ppl already crying.

[Alipoprocks]

OMG more whiners! If it's too mind numbingly boring and you don't like it, then don't do it. There are more weapons that I am positive are more challenging to get.

[Taggerung5]

FATES need to die. Nobody likes to do them. If you're not standing there when it pops, you probably won't get credit because the other 500 people there will kill it all with AoE spam before you even know what happened. This is not a good way to get things, this is a retarded time sink that serves no purpose. I can understand something like "You need 10 tokens to unlock the next stage, but you can only get 1 token a week from X place".
This system of "stand around and wait for FATES and hope you get enough credit, then hope it drops what you need" is just stupid.