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  1. #1221
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    Lavene Archnandez
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-D-Omlette View Post
    You don't need to finish a fate, only participate. You also don't need gold.



    Good to know. In that case, go do other FATEs and come back, and engage when there is only a minute or two left and you will get the credit.
    u also don't get atma drop from fail fate.. meaning u need to success.. with no 1 doing.. u hit and running = no one to complete it.. pointless no?
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  2. #1222
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swishytail View Post
    Nope, but you had to rely on 30+ people every 3-days for 15 weeks for 1 weapon.
    You also had to kill a boss that you had 1 chance of killing every 3 real life days.
    Or you could spend upwards to 50 billion gil to buy the currency needed for upgrade.
    what era is that? 10 years back? game community change as year changes.. back then ppl take content slow with dedication.. now there is so much game around ppl want time for value... there is no longer 2 games to pick but 200 games to pick.
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    Last edited by ArcFinix; 04-17-2014 at 07:15 PM.

  3. #1223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swishytail View Post

    Anyhow, it's just a silly thing to see people blowing their tops over 30 hours of farming. Just my opinion.

    Edit: Also, I do not agree with FATEing, so don't get me wrong there. It definitely could have been a better
    quest setup. If you really think about it, though, the time commitment to get this weapon isn't as bad as back
    in the day.
    see my previous post on comparing with OLD game.. community changes so do game

    However i agree that its silly for ppl to blow their top over 30 hours of farming.. but the key problem here is not grinding but unfairness..

    Again a simple example. i get first atma in a day (all 12), 2nd atma in a week (across the whole 7 days) and just finish my third after having stuck at 11/12 for a week (zero drop for the whole week)

    Now think about ppl who farm all 3 weeks and got nothing.. or some 1 farm 9 days, getting 12 per day for all 9 weapons.. THAT is the problem. of course i am giving an extreme end example, if u want to avg it out.. i get my first 12 in a day and my friend got their first 12 in 2 weeks +.. that itself is not fair already
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    Last edited by ArcFinix; 04-17-2014 at 07:14 PM.

  4. #1224
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    So SE decided not to do anything about this, not even "working as intended BS".

    Take it or leave it.
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  5. #1225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heat View Post
    So SE decided not to do anything about this, not even "working as intended BS".

    Take it or leave it.
    i think its kinda official.. no 1 bother about it any more.. ppl who got it moved on to animus.. ppl who don't either quit the game or move on to other weapon source.. i am in western la noscea doing the fate.. and i hardly see more than 2 doing them.. at max was 5 of us trying to down a boss fate..
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  6. #1226
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    Synra Nightwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcFinix View Post
    i think its kinda official.. no 1 bother about it any more.. ppl who got it moved on to animus.. ppl who don't either quit the game or move on to other weapon source.. i am in western la noscea doing the fate.. and i hardly see more than 2 doing them.. at max was 5 of us trying to down a boss fate..
    That's pretty much where I am at. I got all my Atmas without too much trouble, but playing semi casually it has taken me 3-4 weeks to save up the Myths to buy just one book. I am not even planning to do any more after this. I am going to complete this one book, as well as a few other short term goals and just quit the game. I am not quitting just because of the weapon quest, but it is one of the big factors. The devs have really alienated me at this point.

    I can't keep playing this game if this is how it's going to be. I can't trust these devs to do a good job anymore. The 2.0 and 2.1 end-games weren't great, but they were workable. I thought we would finally see some real improvements with this patch but the 2.2 endgame is by far the worst yet. It's not fun at all. I feel like I am spinning my wheels trying to advance and barely getting anywhere. And because of the choices the devs made, I am finding other players are becoming more obnoxious and elitist every week. Even just clearing my duty roulettes each day is turning into a trial of my patients.
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  7. #1227
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcFinix View Post
    Now think about ppl who farm all 3 weeks and got nothing.. or some 1 farm 9 days, getting 12 per day for all 9 weapons.. THAT is the problem. of course i am giving an extreme end example, if u want to avg it out.. i get my first 12 in a day and my friend got their first 12 in 2 weeks +.. that itself is not fair already
    How is this different from people that cleared Turn 5 for over 2 months before they saw a white mage weapon drop? At least with fates if you put in the time, you will eventually get it, with coil you were allowed one chance per week for your loot, there are still a couple pieces from turn 1 my group still hasn't seen drop, we weren't in the first groups to clear it, but we have been clearing it for a few months, and still have yet to see healer gloves or the dragoon chest drop. With fates too, the more you have to, it's not like you are getting nothing, you get a little bit of gil and a decent amount of seals, but with the amount people are saying they are having to run, that adds up to a healthy amount of sweet sweet gils and pretty much unlimited ventures or crafting materials you can sell.
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  8. #1228
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    SongJoohee's Avatar
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    Au Ra
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    Another week, no response. No "working as intended".

    EN: 1228 posts, 94k views
    JP: 981 posts, 193k views

    Apparently 2000 posts and nearly 300k thread views on one subject is not enough to garner a response.
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  9. #1229
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Another week, no response. No "working as intended".

    EN: 1228 posts, 94k views
    JP: 981 posts, 193k views

    Apparently 2000 posts and nearly 300k thread views on one subject is not enough to garner a response.
    Maybe you should just take the hint that they think it's fine and get on with it. I said in another post you have two options do it or don't when the next step comes this one will probably be made easier so you can do it then.
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  10. #1230
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    Luna Sushima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ispen View Post
    Maybe you should just take the hint that they think it's fine and get on with it. I said in another post you have two options do it or don't when the next step comes this one will probably be made easier so you can do it then.
    When the masses are in an uproar, No it's not fine even though you personally think it's fine, it won't be fine if people leave because of this. They don't want that neither do I.
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