Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Sygmaelle]

people have give valid point into this thread about the trouble link to that. you? nothing exept be rude and don't give any proof that this system is good. a looot of people, most of the community saying is bad and you say is not. give us a valid reason of it's good. but i doubt you can.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2016270


Isn't that coverin the

the main point of the mmorpg is not raid, nor pvp, nor grind (like you say) but to meet and do thing with people.

of your answer ?

They did this for a reason : people were not doin fates anymore in certain zones because of the change that happened in 2.1, there was much more activity in dungeons because it was much more rewarding, for every level bracket.

Its not a perfect compromise by any means because it create more problems, but its just for now while everyone is grindin.

all of this for say it's a big time sink... for solo player more than group player. i play with someone and i can't see how we will be able to complet it together, since get atma is totally random.

And so is pretty much 100% of the PvE content regardin loots and drops in dungeons / trials and raids.

You can farm together while havin a chat on teamspeak and stuff like that, its a part of the social aspect of the game. Or just beein in a group but not in the same zone.

Besides, havin things to do as a single player is also a part of the experience, if you re into well playin your class and practicin on a dummy I doubt you ll have some funny talk all the time meanwhile.

And btw, I'm not beein rude at all, I don't think I've insulted or beein mean to anyone, I'm just sayin something that look like "get over the fact that not everyone will be rewarded".

We can have a chat and we'll probably agree on the conclusion that will be "but why puttin such unfairs (and that precise point, the fairness, is also so subjective depending of your personnality it ll just be a conflict of point of views again I'm afraid) conditions for the upgrade of the relic when it was much more reachable for the initial one"

I'll answer that its precisely what the community asked for. People have been complainin that it was much more of a time sink and a rewarding feeling to have a relic in FF XI, bringin all kind of examples on the table and when SE deliver the "exact same concept", all we can see are complains.

So I don't know really. Maybe all the players around here are just bipolars that feel sad when they can't be instantly rewarded while they just scream to have something meaningfull to grind for.

Also, not everyone got allagan weapons, including very serious raiders that downed Turn 5 for months. Remember, 1 chance to have a weapon, per week. Do you see 100 pages of complains about it ? no, they moved on Levi EX already and pray for more luck.

you see people asking for help in dungeon or primal and no one will help anymore, before 2.2 if anyone asked for titan EX or HM and relic quest from start to end all will jump in, now everyone is for him self, doing his own thing.

i really think this patch did more bad than good to this game.

Meanwhile some others like myself downed turn 6 with their good ol' ilvl90 weapon, while craving for a Levi EX one :P

its just an option. That atma is just an option.