Quote Originally Posted by LilithMakyomo View Post
Literally every single person complaining about atmas falls into at least one of 3 categories. 1) Grinding needs a set goal no matter how high it is (which I'm sure if the system was that way they'd complain about that too). 2) This is the be all, end all weapon and I want it. 3) I don't have the time for this, or the group for Levi/Coil. I will address each of these.

1) Top down action RPGs like Diablo and Path of Exile, by this argument, should be the least popular games ever and not sell at all. Top tier loot is based entirely on RNG, and that's all the game has. No other progression options. But these are some of the most popular RPGs today.

2) Allagan will always be slightly better or equal to Relic. Invest your time into coil (btw, c2 turns 1 and 2 can be done in i90, fyi) and get that. Might take the same amount of time to get an i115 weapon as it does fate grinding, and its better. Which leads to......

1) those are action RPG, u are smashing and killing with a few buttons and maybe avoid some aoes... of course with lots of loots with a chance of best gear or better gear.. this is fate farming that.. u do nothing but spam 1 button and spam another 1 button maybe..

2) some ppl are collector or just wanna have a personal achievement.. yes allagan is better so what? levi weapon is better so what? they just want to get everything for show? don't need to teach ppl how they want to progress..

3) i don't have time to play a grind game that is unfair.. but i have time to enjoy a mmo.. time is not yours to decide..