Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Cyrus-Wallace]

To be honest, I don't know what the rest of the players want. As this guy pointed out:

Hi,
Sure they don't expect everybody to do it but there are people that want long grinding.
The upgrade is not mandatory and there are other weapons iLvL 100 to 115 that don't demand that amount of grinding.
It's a choice, I guess they allow people to have easily all Zenith relics but to get all zodiacs not that easy.

And I agree with him. Also...

3 hours huh? It was years before I got my first MVP card in Ragnarok!

I never got my Ghostring/Golden Thief Bug Card!!! ;_;

[ZeroHigh]

I never got my Ghostring/Golden Thief Bug Card!!! ;_;

OMG golden thief bug card! was never able to get it, same with the Garm Card.

[Nepenthe]

I never got my Ghostring/Golden Thief Bug Card!!! ;_;

OMG golden thief bug card! was never able to get it, same with the Garm Card.

I mained scholar after it was released and always felt GTB should burn D:<
But I never got my own. It hurts more that I got Atros. The art is awesome but.. but!! C'mon!

Now those were a real grind. Super camped bosses, spawning once in a million years, with.. what was it? .01% drop rate?

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As far as FATEs go, I'm not a huge fan of the way they work or grinding them or anything. Don't think that. However, in ALL honesty it turns into potayto-potahto after a while.

Grinding a regular mob, while I enjoy that giving them additional purpose, is just as menial of a task as grinding a FATE. You kill 1000 monsters, you grind 15-20 fates. The exception is that it's easier to have a huge group of people doing fates (less limited on monsters) and you can do other things between fates depending on how you go about it.

Time sinks are time sinks. If they were absurdly difficult (like Ragnarok, in our posts as examples) people would flip a brick. And that is definitely not that fun and unfitting for this particular case. But what else will you have? Something that is applicable for most people to eventually gain, is not in a dungeon (because face it, that is just as awful. pewpew boss down. CRAP it didn't drop), will not be restricted to trying once a week, and will not be burned out in the first day of the patch. There are other things, and they could still happen, but a lot of it is very similar in the long run. Make a social thing out of it or anything else you can to make the best of it.

[Velox]

I mained scholar after it was released and always felt GTB should burn D:<
But I never got my own. It hurts more that I got Atros. The art is awesome but.. but!! C'mon!

Now those were a real grind. Super camped bosses, spawning once in a million years, with.. what was it? .01% drop rate?

GTB card was way too OP for something dropped from the easiest boss. "Ohai, sorry, but here's a card that literally shuts down your entire class so I can lol at you running away" I remember solo'ing it on my wizard. Never got the card to drop though, yea cards had a .01% drop rate, ended up winning it from one of those albums.