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    Player
    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Norondor View Post
    You're asking for something as pointless as people comparing HQ results when facing west on Firesday during a full moon in FFXI.
    So out of an entire series you bring up one of the worst examples in the series?

    Atma droprate % involving puzzles of the Zodiacs is far better than a straight grind low % RNG.

    Oh look progression, 12 puzzles, 12 steps. Sad thing is, if there is no random generator in the puzzle ppl would just look at a guide and get it done in 20mins.
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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    This grinding is sucking worse and worse every day><. I don't mind the grind but I'm really Starting to get pissed off with this RNG. Pretty sure today I'll hit the 3k Fate Achievement and I started last week with 2392 fates and I'm sitting at 2843.
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    Brother Seaneth
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    This relic upgrade really saddened me. Like others have said, I'm not against a quest that takes quite a bit of time to complete as long as I know I'm actually progressing. When it becomes a chance game, it becomes really shaky (and then boasters emerge with "I got mine in 12/12 FATEs...stop crying").

    When I first read about this relic upgrade, I was really excited. I was expecting genuinely new content (ha), but all we've gotten is a heavy recycle job--which seems to be a growing trend. Even if the quest would have been something along the lines of doing a set number of FATEs per zone followed by a specialized fight with the zodiac for that zone (such as a white mage fighting against a white mage version of the Keeper of the Atma of the Ram), I think that would have been more exciting and engaging. Mindlessly running from FATE to FATE and spamming the same skills with the hope that you'll get gold—and ultimately, the Atma—makes my heart hurt.

    I don't want to fight the RNG boss!
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    NyneAlexander's Avatar
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    Nyne Helios
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 80
    This quest makes me want to swallow broken glass. Shame I'm such a slave to pursuing the next best weapon/item/shiny thing.
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    Mandze Evensent
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    The RNG is against me.

    You know what really irks me? They still haven't fixed the ridiculous inability to queue a dungeon while a chocobo is summoned. If I could summon my chocobo to get it EXP and FATE grind with it while waiting in a dungeon queue, at least I'd be accomplishing *something* rather than just banging my head against the RNG. I'd find the whole thing less annoying if I could multitask.
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    When I finally get all 12 I'm going to throw a party so big, It will make The Great Gatsby's parties look like a 1 year olds birthday party.
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    omgitslos's Avatar
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    Lo'syk Stahl
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    RNG is going to make me cry.

    For me and all those who have yet to acquire 1 Atma
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  8. #8
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    Ulathskullsplitter's Avatar
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    So. Freaking. Frustrated. This RNG stuff blows. Im paying for my good luck monday these past 2 days. Monday night I had 5 of them drop in less than 2 hours. The next day I got one on my 2nd fate. Now im going on 8 hours with nothing. Just needed to vent somewhere.
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Total of about 600 fates to get all 12 for me with a 250ish fate dead spot between 7 and 8. On the plus side I got a ton of seals (almost 100k) to spend on ventures and i70 crafting mats. Not looking forward to the myth grind now, even if you can do first 2 bosses in brayflox in 10 minutes, that's 5 hours of grinding the same 2 bosses over and over again per book and a total of 45 hours to do all 9. Just the myth. Minimum. Most people are probably not going to break 150 myth per hour though so closer to 90 hours. No wonder SE saying the number of completions going to be small by 2.25. Assuming it drops around the halfway mark between 2.2 and 2.3 that's roughly 6 weeks to put in those 90 hours. 2 hours a day every day seems a little ridiculous to just get the tomes required to do the upgrade quests, not even factoring in the actual objectives you need to complete. All said and done, guessing that it's going to take an average player between 135 and 150 hours of play time to complete an animus once you factor in atma, myth and objectives.
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    Last edited by Deathgiver; 04-03-2014 at 05:41 AM. Reason: char limit

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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    No wonder SE saying the number of completions going to be small by 2.25.
    That's because most people are still going to be working on Atmas.
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