Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Gormogon]

with the Atma fate grinding now people can call themself elite/lucky instead of elite/skilled.let them bask in their moment,i am waiting the moment when they can't go furhter then t4 even dressed full IL90 gear

Tthe Zodiac quest line extends through a couple of patches. So there's no point in anyone getting atma/animus to be considered an elite or is there a point in bragging about it. The only ones I see bragging about anything revolving anything tend to be elitist more than those bragging about feeling they accomplished something.

[Gukster]

Have the FATE grind remain a part of the quest.

Allow RNG but limit the amount of attainable Atmas to one of ea. per quest.

After completing 1 of every FATE(Except the weird ones like the hive series.) you get the Atma for that region 100%.

Every Atma has 5min-2hr RNG for those that preach by FFXI and RNG, but for those that are more casual in time and, to compensate for the stupid drop rates, at the very most you have to do 1 of every FATE. That's my opinion. It can still take 12hrs to just get the first phase done. It still a time sink for those that will defend the time sink and compare it to 11, but this stuff they have now is just dumb. I don't know what else to call it. Crappy implementation.

[Rosy]

Perhaps if they had at least made atmas drop from high level fates it wouldn't be so bad....but you end up being permanently without any skills except the low level ones. So the theory that this has been done to "populate" the lower zones and make new players falsely think that the game is hugely populated, seems about spot on. Personally? I haven't even bothered, I would rather do the Extremes, Leviathan and new dungeons, where at least you can earn Myth/Soldiery and feel you're doing something to better your character.

This whole fate grind and rng thing is just frustrating, demoralising and frankly, boring...and a total waste of time when you could actually be doing something you enjoy...that's what games are for, are they not? to have fun and enjoy?

[Zumi]

Here is my feedback for the relic quest.

It feels as if the relic quest is a long grindy alternative to other weapons in the game which if fine casual players who don't want to do the newest coil need something to do to, and the idea of always having an upgradeable weapon seems nice.

The atma drop rate is too low and plagued by RNG. I am 8/12 on atams, 5 of them I have got in a short time less then 30 min each, however there the other 3 I spent, 8, 8, and 10 hours getting. Currently I am on another 10 hour atma. Playing the game and doing fates for 10 hours and walking away with nothing to show for it isn't fun. It just makes for a very frustrating experience.

After atmas the dungeon grinding part collecting 13500 myth tomes and doing books is long but it doesn't seem as bad. Because everything you do is progress toward upgrading the weapon since its not RNG based this seemed like a bunch better system.

With the atma part we see people who say they finished in 12 hours and other people who played 12 hours and not seen 1 drop. The atma drop rate needs to be raised so that people are spending 10+ hour days to get 1 atma, this only frustrates players.

[Dox]

The atma drop rate is too low and plagued by RNG.... ......With the atma part we see people who say they finished in 12 hours and other people who played 12 hours and not seen 1 drop. The atma drop rate needs to be raised so that people are spending 10+ hour days to get 1 atma, this only frustrates players.

I agree 100% the drop rate is to low and needs to be increased ASAP!

[BoltNixter]

Love the grind, hate the FATE system/Instance spam with a passion.

[LunarEmerald]

Grinding is only okay when it doesn't involve rng. Knowing that people are having an easy time because of luck is just frustrating.

Should have been complete 50 or 100 fates in each of these zones to get the atma. No rng but still very time consuming.

[snowybell]

It's annoying that it's not an upgrade immediately after spending so much rng/luck time on it (12 Atma alone) and a +2 that requires 1500 myth tomes. The Atma shouldn't be the grind, should be the books. Maybe raise the tome cost I'm sure no one will complain since there's no rng.

[yumeyume]

there is no skill involve in fate farming. It is just luck and spamming button.

[Kirosuu]

and patient with less whining