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    Player
    Heat's Avatar
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    Heat Daour
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KupoNuts View Post
    Oh no! I didn't get the best weapon in game in 10 hours! Boo-hoo!

    Don't let the doors hit you on the way out.
    another close minded who dont understand whats going on.

    you could jump in a zone do 2-3 fates and you get the atma, or stay 6+ hours or 2 days even and not get anything.

    if they say kill 100 mobs, and slay all mobs in 6 HM dungeons, and kill all primal HM & EX, it would be fine with me since i know how it begins and how it ends and can work on it.

    but do fates and you might get the item in 1 hour or 1 month (depends on your luck). that's stupid.
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    Last edited by Heat; 03-31-2014 at 03:53 AM.

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    Wiggly Pinworms
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Please fix theist of locations of where the atma drops there are some mistakes in the quest log.
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    Wiggly Pinworms
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    List** sorry can't edit my post for some reason on noble phone.
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    Perthaneus-Magnum's Avatar
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    Perthaneus Magnum
    World
    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I hope they keep the drop rate as it is. I enjoy the grind because it reminds me of the incredible feeling when you FINALLY do get your drop.
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    Eminent FC / Sargatanas / EminentLS.guildwork.com

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    NotTheNameIWanted's Avatar
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    Vick Renolt
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    This is the only drop-rate quest in FFXIV that I know of that isn't 100% drop rate. Should've been kill all Extreme Primals, especially with the two new ones out... that actually takes some level of skill and feels like an epic end-game questline. This is just grinding out FATES with a horrid drop rate so that low-level players have people to run with FATEs with.

    If you have the time to grind this out, you probably don't have very much respect for your own time. SE probably laughs their butt's off about this.
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    Vick Renolt
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    And once you finish spending *hours* using the character you spent *hours* to get to level 50 so you could get end-game gear and see exciting high-end content, you're now level and gear-syncing to farm unchallenging, unrewarding low-level content for a bad drop rate so new players can FATE grind and have a better leveling experience.

    Let's pretend that isn't BS in itself - SE is basically employing bleeding edge end-game players so their new players feel like the world is more populated (I had next to noone to run FATEs with when leveling, anyone who joins the game now is going to think the game world is *that* populated when it's really just the endgamers being exploited).

    Then let's say you get your weapon. Now you need 1500 Myth per upgrade. *Now* you're going to be farming things you've already farmed to get where you were *before* Atma weapon, to help new players learn dungeons/get their gear faster (because you have experience and can teach them all the fights) and keep DF queues going, so you can get abysmally low stat upgrades for a total of 6000 Myth.

    And then what? Obviously you aren't taking that into new challenging end-game content, because if that existed you wouldn't be tempted to do this seemingly infinite grind in the first place - you'd be too busy with all that exciting, challenging end-game content.

    This isn't content, or challenge. It's mindless. Rather than giving challenging new content for all the people at the end-game wall, we get one new raid tier, 3 new dungeons that are knocked out in one attempt by all the people that were already at that end-game wall and gives them abysmal rewards for doing so (because the new dungeons are for fresh 50s, *not* challenges for established endgamers that something like "Lost City" was claimed to be), and a soul-sucking grindfest that makes us repeat all the things we've done to get to where we are because we wanted challenging content.

    Giving in to what SE's provided because you're addicted and need that upgrade, however minor? Have some respect for yourself. Grinding for Atma weapon and upgrades does more for new players than it does for you, and it isn't even fun.
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    Last edited by NotTheNameIWanted; 03-31-2014 at 01:49 AM.

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    Liria's Avatar
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    Emma Millstein
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    I will train a Monkey on how to teleport, press one button and walk around a map for Fate grinding for a possible item. That's all you need to do new relic quest anyways. That would save a lot of time, pacience and sanity.
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  8. #8
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    I hope this really is getting read.

    I feel betrayed. Yoshi has been quoted many times about making sure that what is in his game is fun. How is grinding endless fates with no sense of progress hour, after hour, after hour fun? Yes, there are some masochistic former FFXI players out there that get all steamy eyed about this nonsense but that is certainly not the feeling of most players.

    I"m all for rewards taking some time to get but I'd like them to be due to things I can measure and predict and that reflect my skill and accomplishments to date (gear). When I do well, i get rewarded. Not when I spam mindless, no skill, soul crushing RNG events over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, .......
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    Aeryn Zael
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    There's alternatives to the relic upgrades for people that want more consistency btw.

    Like the leviathan EX weapons. ~1/9 chance the weapon for your class drops. Can't say much about the mirrors though.
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    Fornix's Avatar
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    Fornix Amygdala
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Relic +2 taking time, okay.

    Having it be done through a boring, tedious and meaningless manner? Meh.

    On top of that, also have it be required to be on a character which already has a relic weapon, essentially making all the hours invested in gather kills completely useless barring the atma drop once in a blue moon? Truthfully, one of the worst game mechanic decisions I've seen in MMO's over the past couple of years.
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