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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    People say everything takes only monday to cap. SE implements slower tome grind. People complain OMG I actually have to play more than 1 day now.
    Note the bold word of 'have', and find it ironic that it is not 'want'. There lies the major issue most find with the game.

    so yes, they made it so you have to do 10 dungeons versus 9. However they are making you chose from only 3 dungeons and discounted the rest of the content.

    On top of that, you need 30 dungeons alone for the animus weapon upgrades, after you went to fates in every zone.

    another issue is in understanding the difference between 'content' and 'work'.
    IMO, This patch is the example of failure since it adds 'work' but not entertainment.

    Getting the animus weapon is like a t-shirt saying: I put in 80 hours into this game and all I got was this crappy thing which will be useless in 2 months...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    Getting the animus weapon is like a t-shirt saying: I put in 80 hours into this game and all I got was this crappy thing which will be useless in 2 months...
    Wait, in two months, when it gets powered up, it becomes useless?

    O_o {Hmmm.}
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    Wait, in two months, when it gets powered up, it becomes useless?

    O_o {Hmmm.}
    yea... your right, I apologize for my error:
    it is already semi worthless now. The high allagan (ilvl115), restored version of the 'weathered' series (ilvl110) and tidal wave (ilvl100) are better then it, although the tidal waves may be case by case on the weapon comparisons themselves.
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    Player Eagleheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    yea... your right, I apologize for my error:
    it is already semi worthless now. The high allagan (ilvl115), restored version of the 'weathered' series (ilvl110) and tidal wave (ilvl100) are better then it, although the tidal waves may be case by case on the weapon comparisons themselves.
    High Allagan is basically irrelevant for the purpose of this conversation, do you really think the majority or even a sizable fraction of the playerbase will have the High Allagan by the time 2.25 rolls around? Hell, not all groups have even beaten Turn 5 by the time 2.2 hit, six months after its release. O_o

    Even if so, the High Allagan are supposed to be top tier. The Zodiac is not. o.O It's supposed to be competitive.

    The Tidal Waves do not make the Animus worthless at all, they are roughly equal, and, at 2.25, the Zodiac will outdo the Tidal Waves easily.

    O_o The Weathered start at 100 and upgrade to 110 through an unknown mechanism that likely involves Coils, which not everyone participates in. This makes the Animus competitive for now, lagging behind a bit once people acquire the upgrade items for Weathered (how are they acquired? are they rare? will you have to compete with others for them?), and competitive again in 2.25.

    Any way you look at it, this is a fine weapon option that will grow stronger and have unique features to it as the system expands.

    Where is the problem?
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    Last edited by Eagleheart; 03-29-2014 at 03:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    yea... your right, I apologize for my error:
    it is already semi worthless now. The high allagan (ilvl115), restored version of the 'weathered' series (ilvl110) and tidal wave (ilvl100) are better then it, although the tidal waves may be case by case on the weapon comparisons themselves.
    yoshi has always said relic will always be better
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    The direction that SE is heading with ARR is clear. Maximum grind. Can't wait until the next tome when we get 1 at a time. Those that wanted more pointless grind should be pleased as punch, though. :P
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    Player Eagleheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10TailBeast View Post
    The direction that SE is heading with ARR is clear. Maximum grind. Can't wait until the next tome when we get 1 at a time. Those that wanted more pointless grind should be pleased as punch, though. :P
    Negative, Ghost Rider, this is a far cry from Maximum Grind.

    o_o Ever played Lineage II? Maximum Grind poster child.
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    ok, what are we crying about now?
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    Anyone have a updated table?
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Hi,

    I just did WP awhile ago, and it only gives a total of 30 Myth (10 for first boss, 20 for second boss and none for the last boss), as for the Soldiery, I'm not sure since I'm already capped when I cleared it.
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