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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    None of those is the top WAR DPS rotation. BB>SE is the top damage rotation. If you're doing it right, every rotation except for BB spam is going to do more damage than PLD as well.
    so you do Butcher's Block -> Storm's Eye, you must do horrible damage then read the abilities. You completely ignore maim for damage buff and have 2 abilities that are not even in rotation nerfing the damage on them.

    Butcher's Block
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
    Additional Effect: Increased enmity.
    Combo Action: Skull Sunder, Combo Potency: 280.

    Storm's Eye
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
    Combo Action: Maim, Combo Potency: 270
    Combo Bonus: Decreases target's slashing resistance by 10% and HP recovery via curing magic by 50% for 15s.
    Grants Wrath when used with Defiance for 30s.

    So here are the options on rotations and your BB->SE doesn't fill anyone of them
    1) Heavy Swing > Skull Sunder
    2) Heavy Swing > Maim
    3) Maim > Storm's Path
    4) Maim > Storm's Eye
    5) Skull Sunder > Butcher's Block
    6) Heavy Swing > Maim > Storm's Path
    7) Heavy Swing > Maim > Storm's Eye
    8) Heavy Swing > Skull Sunder > Butcher's Block

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    And I've done tests with parsers as well as done the math on potency per GCD numerous times. WAR, when properly played, does more damage. The only way PLD does better is if the WAR is doing it wrong (which is what you're doing, looks like). Because it's basically impossible to screw up a PLD, people that don't know what they're doing are going to see better damage on a PLD, but that doesn't mean that PLD does more damage than a WAR.
    So You ran the math and have parsers, lets see them. I can say I wrote a mod that screen scrapes them both and I found PLD do 500 more DPS than warrior. Doesn't mean it is true just means I can type words too. Like I said I don't need to argue it you can just find out for yourself using GCD counting on killing mobs. I explained my methods how about you explain yours. I am open to being proven wrong but proven is the key word I am not taking your word for it.

    Also from your Butcher's Block -> Storm's Eye explanation above it is obvious you don't know basic rotations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    First off, you're the one that brought up the number. You specifically said that PLD had "more mitigation skills" which is explicitly wrong as I pointed out. Secondly, "mitigation" is not the same thing as "damage reduction" even if the two terms are often conflated by the uneducated. Increased healing received *is* mitigation because it means that you need less healing to offset the same amount of incoming damage so it's not even true to say that PLD has more damage mitigation overall.
    No I said "PLD has a higher mitigation than warrior but less HP and no healing buff" so before you quote someone make sure your quote is accurate.
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    Last edited by Set; 03-29-2014 at 04:06 AM. Reason: longer post