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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Actually this isn't totally correct - PLD does have a healing buff, from GLA (Convalescence), however, it's not very potent and has a fairly long cooldown.
    You're so very wrong about Convalescence. First off, I find it hard to believe that you could say that 30% +healing for PLD and 20% +healing for WAR is "not very potent"; that's greater mean mitigation contributions than Rampart, for PLD, and as much as Defiance, for WAR, both of which would probably be considered to be pretty potent tank CDs. Convalescence is actually the second strongest CD (not counting Inner Beast) that WAR has (Vengeance is 30% for 15 every 120; Conv is 20% for 20 every 120). The only "weakness" of Convalescence is that it doesn't provide any increase to eHP, which shouldn't really be a problem if you know how and when to use it (especially if there's a SCH in your group).

    As to the CD, Conv is actually one of the fastest CDs that PLDs get. Rampart and Foresight have 90 sec CDs, but Bulwark and Sentinel have 180 sec CDs and HG is 7 minutes. As such, Conv is only slightly slower than Rampart/Foresight (and provides a bigger buff than either), but significantly lower than Bulwark or Sentinel (and provides a buff nearly on par with Sentinel with a longer duration to boot).

    Also, as to the quoted statement, he was most likely referring to the differences between Shield Oath and Defiance, as opposed to a holistic view of all of their capabilities. Holistically, WAR and PLD actually have virtually identical mean mitigation and eHP even if they do so with different mechanisms.
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    Well the name says it all "paladin" and check out all the final fantasy series regarding paladin. I would prefer if warrior had been a DPS role.
    Keep in mind warrior user's 2 hand weapons, one would think since the warrior user's that there would be more damage output.
    I hope if they are making a class's such as samurai or dark knight not to make them as tanks lol
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    Last edited by Jediman; 03-28-2014 at 11:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jediman View Post
    I hope if they are making a class's such as samurai or dark knight not to make them as tanks lol
    One or both of these classes will likely be tanks or have a tanking mode that's at least good enough for light parties if not raiding. What exactly would be wrong with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirinichibon View Post
    One or both of these classes will likely be tanks or have a tanking mode that's at least good enough for light parties if not raiding. What exactly would be wrong with this?
    I rather have them fulfill their job roles DPS stays as DPS and vice versa. or we can always have healers as tanks and act like paladins lol
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    Last edited by Jediman; 03-29-2014 at 12:52 AM.

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    Never quite understood why people say samurai should be dps. Samurais have always been tanky jobs, being able to wear heavy armor and weaken enemies. The advantage they had over other tank jobs is higher damage thanks to gil toss. Even historically they are closer to tanks as they drew attention on the battlefield due to their flashy armor and were all about protection of the nobility, very much like a Knight in fact.
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