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  1. #1
    Player
    BloodPact's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Atemi'a Arecis
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Do Summoners really have a lot of MP issues? I know BLMs don't at all, but my ARC is only level 20. Personally, I never look at DPS mana at all. I put the healers at the top of my party list and only watch for them. The last thing I would ever want to do is waste all of my mana on Balad for a DPS and then not have any MP when a healer needs Balad later on. I'll use Foe for you during DPS races, but that's normally it.
    Yeah, we do. It's situational, depending on each fight and what happens in each. I said Ifrit Extreme, because at least for me that's one instance where I'm almost guaranteed to be dry near the last phase of nails. Most others I don't have to speak because I just get topped off when you sing for the healers. Two things that can really hurt our MP pool in any fight is constant resurrections or recovery from a KO. On fast paced fights it's brutal. XD
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    Cluebilly's Avatar
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    Roksha Alkdnar
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    I usually only ever use foes if there's another bard in the party, because that way he can play Mage's Ballad if the healers MP drops below 2k. That's just me being overly cautious though
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    As a healer... I really would like to know what people do with their MP. Unless there is a boss fight lasting more than 5 mins where you constantly have to AOE heal, then ballad should never be used. Use shroud when ever it is up, use aetherflow whenever it is up. As a bard, I watch every buff the healers use and will refuse to sing to healers who don't know how to use MP recovery moves.
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    Issac's Avatar
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    Kytheren Kenni
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    As a healer... I really would like to know what people do with their MP. Unless there is a boss fight lasting more than 5 mins where you constantly have to AOE heal, then ballad should never be used. Use shroud when ever it is up, use aetherflow whenever it is up. As a bard, I watch every buff the healers use and will refuse to sing to healers who don't know how to use MP recovery moves.
    Oh yes, let's teach the healers to play better with spiteful conditions that make it frustrating for the entire party. Let's not use positive reinforcement, no no. Let's just hold a vendetta that satisfies your pride.

    FFS. This kinda attitude is why I play on JP servers.
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    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Character
    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    As a healer... I really would like to know what people do with their MP. Unless there is a boss fight lasting more than 5 mins where you constantly have to AOE heal, then ballad should never be used. Use shroud when ever it is up, use aetherflow whenever it is up.
    a sch will "rarely" need ballad, the only times its really necessary is t2 enrage and drawn out titan fights, that being said a whm or sch can easily drain their mp even when healing isnt necessary, if there is enough stand around time they should be dpsing to fill the void, if they run themselves out of mp doing this its their problem(mostly a whm problem still =p) but having a bard to back up makes it easier. just like not standing in bad stuff and dying is a dps problem but having a healer around makes it easier =D
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    Character
    Kupo Storaifo
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 76
    I do the same thing with putting healers at the bottom of my party list. Ballad when it looks like it's needed, any other song upon request. I've rarely had a need to use BV, though.
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    When all else fails, Heck the Bed.

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    Elazu's Avatar
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    Character
    Aveira Teleri
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    While we're at it:

    Dear tanks, use Shield Oath when your DPS completely outgears you.
    Dear healers, use Holy when nobody needs heals in mobs.
    Dear melee DPS, use your Limit Break.
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    10TailBeast's Avatar
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    Character
    Arik Dotharl
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 57
    I know this topic isn't aimed at me because I sing like there is no tomorrow. I love BRD and was singing MB the moment I got it. Had a SCH in our party tell me "Not yet!" after it sounded like he wanted me to. lol Square can nerf our dmg when another ranged dps that is supposed to deal more dmg is released, but please buff our songs. Both in range and effectiveness, give us a couple more to use, even.
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    Darkdrover's Avatar
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    Character
    Whiskey Tango
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I just recently started back playing songs, when 2.0 first came out, you would have people complaining about BRD songs. Telling me to turn it off because it makes my dmg suck. This went on for quite some time, and would explain why a lot of BRDs who have been playing a while just don't even bother anymore. I do like how that has went away, I don't get b(tched out for playing songs TOO often now...although the occasional healer will complain even if im just turning on Ballad in between fights, It isn't personal, doesn't mean you are a bad healer, its just helpful to be helpful, you dig?
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    Avantasia's Avatar
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    Character
    Avantasia Cross
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Only use songs when you actually need it otherwise you are wasting resources.

    And I like how OP does not mention TP song.
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