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  1. #31
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    Darkdrover's Avatar
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    Whiskey Tango
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I just recently started back playing songs, when 2.0 first came out, you would have people complaining about BRD songs. Telling me to turn it off because it makes my dmg suck. This went on for quite some time, and would explain why a lot of BRDs who have been playing a while just don't even bother anymore. I do like how that has went away, I don't get b(tched out for playing songs TOO often now...although the occasional healer will complain even if im just turning on Ballad in between fights, It isn't personal, doesn't mean you are a bad healer, its just helpful to be helpful, you dig?
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  2. #32
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    Avantasia's Avatar
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    Avantasia Cross
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Only use songs when you actually need it otherwise you are wasting resources.

    And I like how OP does not mention TP song.
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  3. #33
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    Reishi's Avatar
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    Character
    Mythe Vandalay
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Avantasia View Post
    And I like how OP does not mention TP song.
    Well, we got no clue but to guess or wait for angry screams to know when we should use the TP song. And as long as the TP bar is not implemented in the party menu...
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  4. #34
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    Kazamoto's Avatar
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    Character
    Kazamoto Futatabi
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 51
    Problem is, I need more songs.

    Swift - marginally useful, people usually sprint anyway.
    Requiem - Our best song, should use as much as possible if you have a mage.
    Ballad - 2nd most useful skill, in theory shouldn't be needed except for endurance events like T4.
    Paeon - I used this for a War once in AK, he kept yelling about being out of tp...


    Where is my Physical Def+ song?
    Regen Song?
    Physical attack + song?
    Sleep song?
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  5. #35
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    Elvin's Avatar
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    Character
    Elvin Rath
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 51
    I found a bard once that was singing all the time. He started with foe requiem (And the other DPS was a Dragoon), them he went to mage ballad when I explained him that it has no sense. It took me 5 minutes asking him as a healer not to sing it. Them he started with the TP song........I felt I was being trolled, but even them I said that I thought it was not worth it and asked the other dragon to tell if he needed or not.
    In the I didn't know if I wanted to commit suicide or genocide

    So... In easy level content I prefer bards that don't sing at all to those that do it badly

    In hard lvl content just don't group up with those bards
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  6. #36
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    KiraVaela's Avatar
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    Character
    Kira Vaela
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I would like thank all Bards that has played Mage's Ballad for me when needed this way.

    It's such a relief to play with Bard in a party that actually pays some attention to my (our) MPs and I can rely on them singing for me.

    All the love for you, Bards! <3
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  7. #37
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    Cspr_Answrth's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Caspar Ainsworth
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I personally would like to see swiftsong boost speed while MP pool is available... This would be nice for Titan Ex where pools of death await.

    I rarely use Paeon anymore - only long drawn out boss fights, and it comes second to Mage's Ballad. Most damage dealing classes should have access to Invigorate. I use this as a BRD... DRG/MNK should have access too it as well, I believe. The only other people that should use TP are Tanks, and as a tank, I've had little need for TP.

    Also, to any non-Bard who uses MP... do yourself and set up a macro with something to the effect of "/p Bard, please play Ballad".
    This makes it so you can request it with minimal downtime, and the bard can focus on the battle more so than the MP. I realize it's still the Bards job to focus on this, but we need to help each other out!
    I have a macro saying when I've used it, and it plays <se.8> ^_^
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  8. #38
    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Character
    Kraiden Draxenian
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    If it's a DPS race fight, I'll normally play Foes until I'm under 1K MP and then turn it off in case the healer ends up needing Mage Balad. Otherwise, I'm normally wary of using Foes because if I tunnel vision at all, my MP can be gone quick and then I may not be able to MB if a healer needs it. Either way, It really is best for Bards to learn the best times to play which songs. For a fight like Titan, for instance, Foe during heart (If you have some magic using DPS) and then Balad at some point during the final phase when healing is more intense.
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    Last edited by Versiroth; 03-26-2014 at 09:28 PM.

  9. #39
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    Mycow8me's Avatar
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    Character
    Tolby Seyfert
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Ballad really should never have to be used. Its only if people are making mistakes like dying a lot when they shouldn't be, or healers are doing too much overhealing. People should avoid making mistakes that put themselves in a situation where ballad must be used.
    This is the terrible kind of mindset this game is breeding with its dodge or fail dungeons. No one strategizes anymore.
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  10. #40
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    Vivi_Bushido's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Hott Cocoa
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    So doing turning coil of Bahamut, and I ask for our Bard to play Mage's Ballad. He refuses. I asked him again, I need mage's ballad please. I'm sitting on 500mp on phase 6 of turn 4. Again, he tells me no. We wipe because I ran out of MP.

    I asked him, "What's your problem? Why didn't you play the song?" His response was, "You suck as a healer. You take my songs for granted and you don't watch your mana pool. I can't deal damage because you can't control your casts." -_-

    I looked at him like,



    and said,"Then quit getting hit!" I can't heal you if I run out of magic to heal you!

    Of course he was acting all,



    and gave me a lecture that everyone else is terrible because they're not playing their roles correctly.

    And now my team is like,



    So we voted to kick him after the third wipe because he still refused to play Mage's Ballad. :3
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    Last edited by Vivi_Bushido; 03-26-2014 at 09:53 PM.

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