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  1. #21
    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Even if Square gave Summoner's HM/EX mode Primals as a summon they wouldn't be OP anyways because they would get severely weakened and just look impressive like how summons work in single player Final Fantasy titles where the summons looked monstrous but we're pretty weak compared their boss fight counterpart.
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  2. #22
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    Kirinichibon's Avatar
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    I'zizi Pi
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 65
    Summoner is really well balanced right now, so I don't see any need for extreme changes.

    Ifrit stinks, though. I'd like to see Radiant Shield changed a haste or crit self buff and Inferno changed to a PBAoE instead of a cone.
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  3. #23
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    My one friend did a bunch of testing on the Egis a few months back (and I'm 99% sure this hasn't changed), and thinks he found the problem: Ifrit and Titan aren't technically underpowered (Radiant Shield being an exception)...they're inherently broken.

    He says they use a SMN's melee stats to calculate damage, not his magic stats (based off STR, Skill Speed, etc, not INT, Spell Speed, etc)

    Fix this so that they scale off the SMN's magic stats and Ifrit will be insanely strong, way out-DPSing Garuda (even with Contagnation); Titan will be able to hold aggro no problems at all.

    I personally haven't done the testing and I should some day. But its easy enough to test (just swap casting accessories for melee ones and see what happens)
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  4. #24
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    They scale from Int/magic but have their own attack formulas that are just interior to wind blade. And ifrit has that delay on his attacks
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  5. #25
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    Lotharius Lionheart
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirinichibon View Post
    Summoner is really well balanced right now, so I don't see any need for extreme changes.

    Ifrit stinks, though. I'd like to see Radiant Shield changed a haste or crit self buff and Inferno changed to a PBAoE instead of a cone.
    No its not garuda is currently the only viable pet option for SMN. I do not call this balanced at all.
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  6. #26
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    I'zizi Pi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inosaska View Post
    No its not garuda is currently the only viable pet option for SMN. I do not call this balanced at all.
    Lacking one out of three useful egi is not keeping SMN from participating in any aspect of the game equally or better than any other class.
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  7. #27
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirinichibon View Post
    Lacking one out of three useful egi is not keeping SMN from participating in any aspect of the game equally or better than any other class.
    But it doesn't help it either. If SE got rid of the pets and gave SMN Contagion, would it really change there gameplay? Probably not. And that's a big problem considering SMN's main mechanic is summoning pets.

    On another note, I like both of your suggestions. Ifrit would benefit greatly from having a Haste versus Spike Damage and his cone-shaped Enkindle is awkward. (Adding to the list).
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  8. #28
    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    SE should just give the Egis toned down Hard Mode Boss mechanics of their parent primal. Also Summoner should have in Evoker as it's base class instead of Arcanist that's stepping on the Red Mage. The Summoner main mechanic is summoning god like beings not high spirits.
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    Last edited by Akiza; 03-29-2014 at 11:56 PM.

  9. #29
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    Myss Keta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I wish they could fix egis.
    Now there are many problems. When i use contagion i have to press the button for 4 or more Times to be sure that garuda will apply it.
    Sometimes Endkidle too.
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  10. #30
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordparanoia View Post
    I wish they could fix egis.
    Now there are many problems. When i use contagion i have to press the button for 4 or more Times to be sure that garuda will apply it.
    Sometimes Endkidle too.
    Really? I've never had a problem with pressing the buttons before. Is she casting her Wind Blade when you press it? If she's in the cast, she'll just ignore the order.
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