Twintania! ISIS! Turn 5 strategy!

[High_Timesw]

Hi,
If anyone is still having trouble with turn 5, I have written up a detailed guide of the mechanics in the fight and how we (ISIS) deals with them.
www.isisfc.org
http://isisfc.org/forum/m/14432477/v...urn-5-isis-way

Our method isn't perfect but, we usually one shot twin each week. It is very detailed, so it is a bit long. Critique our strategy if you like or w/e, I hope this helps groups who are still struggling on it a bit
We do a method at the start I haven't seen any other groups do, which I feel makes the hard enrage trivial! (Not sure if anyone else does this too?)

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[Naunet]

Really good write-up. Saw a few things I'm going to make sure to point out to my raiders tonight to hopefully get us some further progress on Twin! Thanks~

[Galactimus]

Tips:

- When you hit Twin's 13min hard enrage timer a Paladin can survive with Hallowed Ground up. She'll keep on using Profusion until the Paladin is eventually killed but some fights are so close that this can mean a win or a loss.

- The person who is in 2nd place on the hate list will NEVER be targeted by Conflags, Fireballs, or Stunned and killed by Dreadknights. The people near the very bottom of the hate list are targeted far more often then someone in 3rd as well. As such, it's very important your Offtank (Paladin) is 2nd on the hate list during the Twister phase so he is never insta-killed when Dreadknights spawn; thus letting him Shield Bash (if he dies he won't have TP for shield bash anymore.) Similarily, you can make your Offtank last on the hate list during the Conflag phase so your DPS are hit by Conflags and Fireballs less often to increase total DPS in this phase.

- Tell your party to stop DPS when Twin gets to 60% HP. Wait for her to conflag someone, break them out of the conflag, THEN finish Twintania off and enter the next phase. Otherwise, she'll start her dive bomb phase while 1-2 people are still trapped in a Conflag.

- Twintania's first set of Dive Bombs are easy enough to dodge but the second set can be chaotic due to the three snakes. The easiest way to survive the second set is with a counter. The moment the first three Snakes spawn there is exactly 45 seconds until she starts her second set of dive bombs. Having someone keep track of this really increases party survivability. (Can even look at the current raid timer and just add 15 seconds. Time is 14:13 when Snakes spawn. Dive Bombs will start again at 13:28.)

Just a few things we learned the hard way.

[SarcasmMisser]

- Tell your party to stop DPS when Twin gets to 60% HP. Wait for her to conflag someone, break them out of the conflag, THEN finish Twintania off and enter the next phase. Otherwise, she'll start her dive bomb phase while 1-2 people are still trapped in a Conflag.

It obviously depends how your DPS is, but it has become common not just in my group but many other groups I know to just race dps during conflags and breaking the neurolink right after the 3rd conflag. Fireballs and DS often end up horribly mistimed, but you can react and deal with it and it saves having to hold DPS.

[axemtitanium]

A Warrior can also survive 1 Aetheric Profusion using Thrill of Battle if they're topped off or Holmgang if they aren't.

[neoreturn]

Strag is real nothing at this point since video has come out 3 month at least. The key is each job need know what they doing. For tank, Ot is key.
For DPS, Blm is key. Healers both need know when DS will come. My suggestion is don't use single tank. Even many group can pass it with single tank but that stag is much worse and unreliable than two tanks. Most new people have issue on divi bomb. The key for divbomb is everyone need stack well. If your group can't stack well, issue will come.

[High_Timesw]

I have video links as well. I found video's are real nice until you get into a fight. At the same time a video shows you how experienced people handle a fight and they make it look easy. The write up is a complement to our weekly video's we put up.

[Zarzak]

I have video links as well. I found video's are real nice until you get into a fight. At the same time a video shows you how experienced people handle a fight and they make it look easy. The write up is a complement to our weekly video's we put up.

Like the job you did with the written strat. New age MMOs everyone is so wild about "let me watch a video of the fight under prefect farm conditions!! This will explain things!!"

Written strats if well done (like yours) explain everything step by step in a concise way and don't lead to false beliefs about how easy or difficult something is. I think the only thing I'd really add to your write up is some specific information about the mobs and their abilities in terms of hp/damage. "Liquid hell hits for XXXX damage and leaves a circle of fire on the ground that does XXXX a tick" "Asclep has X hp and will hit for about 1000-1500 a swing + tail rattle (or whatever its called) for 2000-2300"

Just that kind of stuff I personally like to see but that's just me. It mattered a lot more in EQ when the damage things did determined which class to use as tanks etc etc.

[High_Timesw]

Thanks! I will look into updating it based what people here tell me!

Look forward to hearing from anyone who is able to complete twin based on my write up as well!

[Zaft]

Nice guide.

alsodangerzone

alsoalso Wouldn't this be better in the Dungeons section?
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/648-Dungeons