SE - Default 3rd Retainer before Fees

[TomTom1968]

People playing one class and maybe 1-2 DOH/DOL and players who are not interested in collecting won't probably understand this. The Game mechanics just do not fit to the options FF14ARR provides us with. SE made it very easy to use a plethora of jobs on the same character. But they did not consider the need of people who actually use several jobs. I see several elements why people (including myself) have run out of space:

- Armoury doesn't provide enough slots. DL gear could easily be used for two jobs, Myth gear is for a single job so for example for a BLM and a Conjuror, you need the equip 2 times although they share stats.

- Keeping items you need regulalarly for your crafts suck up enourmous space in your inventory and your retainers. I have all crafters and do not keep everything but I am constantly switching things over or get rid of items just to gather them again in the next week. And I truly hate it!

- Collectors have a very hard time in FF14. First there is the sub-optimal way SE delievers seasonal gear to us. Patch, keep most of the items until the next patch where they can finally be stored at the Inn. But it is not only vanity stuff. Some people like to collect all the different gear the Game has to offer, like for example all earrings you can get from Ultima or the Ex fights, all Moogle weapons etc. Might not make sense for most players but collectors are out there so why not show a tad more love for them?

I don't care that we have more space now than people had in 1.0. When this Game was released, the storage space was subpar already from the beginning. People have asked for more storage options and half a year later they come out with a monthly paid option. And you wonder why people do not like it thoroughly? Paying for stuff like that would be fine for a free to play Game. But for a subscription based Game? Not seeing it as really appropriate. Don't get me wrong. I WILL use their "service" because I live with congested retainers since months but it really gives me a bad smell in my mouth having to do it for a monthly fee.

[Duuude007]

id rather they just make purchaseable retainers shared across all characters in the account. or an option to make it either shared or static.

No new freebies, we already have tons of free space.

[Asunai]

I'm for a 3rd retainer. 1 for each city is preferable. Also, having extra characters on account doesn't do anything for you - as you can't link the characters together. You can't add them to friends list, you can't send them mail, they are completely cut off from any support from your main character.

I already pay a sub to pay this game...My whole issue with them charging for an extra retainer is that I do not feel like I should be gimp or disadvantaged over someone who has a lot of spare money to toss out. (I'm fairly poor, struggle to make ends meet, this is my only form of entertainment. Believe it or not $2 extra is something I seriously have to think about). Not only will these people get extra storage space for their crafted materials - they'll be able to send a 3rd one on ventures & also put another 20 items on the market place. That's advantageous if you ask me.

It's a step towards Pay 2 Win and in my opinion Pay 2 Win shouldn't be allowed in a Pay-to-play game. T he reason I pay to play is to get away from P2W scenarios. That's part of the reason I quit wow. I had played that game for 7 years and it sucked to see people running around in the game with awesome items that I couldn't even dream of obtaining because I didn't have the extra $$ to shell out to the developers.

[Finuve]

you guys are making me glad my free company is starting to lose interest in this game, as they are the only reason I'm still here

[Thorauku]

Nope, just nope.

Sure the 3rd retainer might come handy, but is in no way needed for having a better gaming experience.

[Felis]

It seems SE should just forget the extra retainers. 2 retainers are enough for the next 5 years.
This way nobody feel to be forced to buy a retainer if someone else buy one.

And if you are a hoarder and even collect stuff you can buy from a NPC for less than 50 gil, then there is still the option to buy a second account.

[Gesser]

SE where you at?

[Zourin]

At the core of running a cash shop is to first establish an aspect that players consider 'uncomfortable' or 'desirable yet superficial' and offer to relieve the discomfort by presenting an item/mechanic that, while not necessary for gameplay, will alleviate that duress for a small fee.

[Low_Kick]

For the people not smart enough to realize this:

Entry subscription fee is $12.99 and has to be renewed every month with no option of purchasing more than 1 month at a time.

Standard subscription fee is $14.99 if you buy for 1 month, however if you purchase 3 months it is actually $13.99 per month. Buy for 6 months it is $12.99 per month which is the same price as the entry sub, just that you need to pay for 6 months worth at once instead of going by month per month.

If you are playing uninterupted for 6 months you can pay the same price of $12.99/mo regardless of standard or entry subscriptions. I feel this is why there isn't a huge stink over the extra characters per world advantage, and when you really think about it, it isn't an advantage since the extra characters per world is accessible for someone wanting to pay $14.99/mo and someone wanting to pay $12.99/mo, only difference is you need to buy 6 months of subscription at once which can't be considered P2W.

Ok so some of you are senior citizens living off of social security checks that can't really afford the $78 upfront, and really need to pay month by month. You have stated that players that pay that extra $2/mo or buy the 6 month subscriptions can farm multiple treasure maps on the same server!!!! Well, it's not like after they are done customizing their characters, that they can go instantly mine/harverst/fish for a map. They need to put in the time to raise their characters to get to that point, which does take a bit of work, and by all means it should. But at the same token, people can also buy another copy of the game and have that account in the same server and do the same thing! So where to draw the line...


For the arrogant posters, it's not about the actual $2/mo that people are actually complaining about. I'm pretty sure most of the people that are against it can afford it. It's the point that it is an element of P2W games that really shouldn't be in a P2P game. Me personally, I wouldn't mind it as much except that there are retainer ventures, 4 different types, and we only have 2 in game that comes with our subscriptions. No one here has played 2.2 yet, so we don't know how much of an impact having 2 more retainers available for ventures will be, but it does look to be a slight advantage for players that don't plan on paying an extra $4/mo for 2 additional retainers. Add to the fact that this can lead to more P2W features in the the future, and this adds up to a legitimate concern.

Pre 2.2 I feel the amount of inventory I have is just right, having everything leveled to 50. I put everything that is storable into my armory chest at the inn, both my retainers are pretty much full, my personal inventory I have the first 2 pages empty so I can craft all of my daily supply mission turn in items at once instead of going to the retainer for each craft, my 3rd page has all my food and potions, and my 4th page is all fishing lures/baits.

With the new vanity system coming, plus all the new crafting mats, pluse all the new equipment, I am not sure if I have enough current inventory space. I'm still undecided whether or not to get the extra retainers, but I know I am not pleased with being nickel'd and dime'd if I do get them. Just do us all a favor and release the fantasia potions in the mog station for us spend all our hard earned money on T__T