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    Airikay's Avatar
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaSinX View Post
    As if threat is even an issue since 2.1. Unless ur spamming your cure, a crit means less mp your spending to get the tank back to full health. And tell me crits are useless after your tank eats a death sentence or wicked wheel.

    ofcourse it benefits whm. . If healer share the allagan 2gear they will need to make at least 50/50. Wouldnt be fair for either if its benefit one class more.
    I am telling you a crit is useless after a death sentence and wicked wheel, yes. A well timed cure 2 and lustrate raises our tank right back to full health. Without me critting. You can't count on crits too happen and there is no proc benefit. I use 0 crit gear as do most WHM who do endgame that have what they consider BiS. Most will pick cleric hands over Allagan hands and Allagan belt over hero. I'm seeing you in DL and figuring you have no real endgame experience as a WHM.

    Also, aggro goes simply beyond ripping hate off a tank. It also goes with where I'm placed in aggro list. Certain abilities targets certain players on aggro list. I don't even want to be 2nd or third in most cases. Which I think you don't understand at all. Unless you think WHM get no aggro all of a sudden with healing since 2.1? Which lol @ you if so

    Edit: I understand it'd be fair to split 50/50, half crit and half det. My original point is you were saying all crit would benefit both, which is the furthest thing from the truth. You tried claiming WHM don't turn away from crit, which for most is also furthest thing from the truth.
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    Last edited by Airikay; 03-26-2014 at 08:52 AM.

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    OmegaSinX's Avatar
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    King Drako
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Airikay View Post
    I am telling you a crit is useless after a death sentence and wicked wheel, yes.

    I'm seeing you in DL and figuring you have no real endgame experience as a WHM.
    So you having better gear automatically makes your point valid ? lol. As a i90 WAR/PLD Main since launch ; I have enough of experience to know a crit heal could mean the difference between a successful run and a wipe. DET and Crits are both important to Healers. Sure each class has their BiS preference because of class dynamics, but to say CRIT is useless to WHM is almost as dumb as saying VIT is useless to healers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Airikay View Post
    Also, aggro goes simply beyond ripping hate off a tank. It also goes with where I'm placed in aggro list. Certain abilities targets certain players on aggro list. I don't even want to be 2nd or third in most cases. Which I think you don't understand at all. Unless you think WHM get no aggro all of a sudden with healing since 2.1? Which lol @ you if so

    Since 2.1 Tanking as far enmity is concern, has become face roll easy. Dont know what tanks you role with, and maybe you have tanks who dont use their cooldowns effectively but when I tank; healers are at the bottom of the threat list near 0. If anything, Main Tanks biggest rival for threat are other tanks. Followed by SMN> MNK> BLM> DRG Heck even BRDs.

    Only situation where ive seen Healers Threat really high is in Turn 2 Enrage Method where they are spamming AoE Cures.


    So Based on your logic. If I had to choose between 2 healers, both with the same amount of experience and both with the same MND, PIE and DET, But one has Higher CRIT than the other, I should turn down the one with more crit because He will cause "threat issues."

    LOL @ YOU
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    Last edited by OmegaSinX; 03-26-2014 at 11:39 AM.
    Tanks be Like....


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    JonFarron's Avatar
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    Alistair Adfectus
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Airikay View Post
    I am telling you a crit is useless after a death sentence and wicked wheel, yes. A well timed cure 2 and lustrate raises our tank right back to full health. Without me critting. You can't count on crits too happen and there is no proc benefit. I use 0 crit gear as do most WHM who do endgame that have what they consider BiS. Most will pick cleric hands over Allagan hands and Allagan belt over hero. I'm seeing you in DL and figuring you have no real endgame experience as a WHM.

    Also, aggro goes simply beyond ripping hate off a tank. It also goes with where I'm placed in aggro list. Certain abilities targets certain players on aggro list. I don't even want to be 2nd or third in most cases. Which I think you don't understand at all. Unless you think WHM get no aggro all of a sudden with healing since 2.1? Which lol @ you if so

    Edit: I understand it'd be fair to split 50/50, half crit and half det. My original point is you were saying all crit would benefit both, which is the furthest thing from the truth. You tried claiming WHM don't turn away from crit, which for most is also furthest thing from the truth.
    I'm SCH BiS. As a result, my WHM has all the crit accessories and the Allagan gloves. I LOVE the crit on WHM . It really really helps in mana conservation, and with Shroud on constant CD, aggro is hardly a problem. Solo healing is also a lot easier. 2200 Cure III crits during Titan HM tumults are amazing. 1/4 heals seems to crit for me, and a Cure I with a crit is perfectly capable of completely topping of a DPS from half health. I also can't tell you how many times a Cure II crit has saved the tank.
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