We try to gather the pre-relic items and make them so we can give them to our fc members freely when they get to this stage of the game. Since patch 2.1 though no-one seems to recall bloody grimoire, bloody bow rims, or bloody lance heads dropping fro WP anymore. It seems to drop everything else but these 3 items. I know you can attain some from leve's etc.

We are curious if anyone knows where they actually drop from. Heard rumors of various dungeons but when I ask anyone out there no one can for certain pin point the new dungeons they are dropped from.