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    The new Allagan set of items needs to have a small customization option.

    Hello,

    The new Allagan set of items are going to be at a higher Ilvl than the new tomes gear. IMHO this is definitely a move in the right direction and the way it should have been from the beginning. However, it did introduce an issue which have not been addressed, stat customization. In 2.0-2.1 we were able to have a little bit of freedom in choosing our stats by mixing Allagan gear with mythology gear. Reach the Acc cap then pick the secondary stats you want using a mixture of both sets.

    Unfortunately we no longer have that option due to the fact the new tomes gear will be inferior by default as stated in the live letter. There is also a fundamental problem here which is Acc itself, we have no idea if the new Allagan gear itself will have enough Acc. BLM for example had a good portion of Acc held up by the Scepter and shield for their first Allagan set.

    I believe it is very important to have a little bit of freedom in picking up our secondary stats so we can shape our characters the way we feel more comfortable with. This can be done by either allowing us to add mats to the new Allagan gear or introduce a restricted system that allows us to swap one secondary stat with another per piece.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 03-22-2014 at 10:19 PM.

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    I'm pretty sure Yoshi only stated that Allagan WEAPONS will be a higher ilvl than the other 2.2 weapons. It literally makes no sense for the Yoshitomes armour to be of a lower ilvl than Allagan armour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistopheles View Post
    I'm pretty sure Yoshi only stated that Allagan WEAPONS will be a higher ilvl than the other 2.2 weapons. It literally makes no sense for the Yoshitomes armour to be of a lower ilvl than Allagan armour.
    Nay he stated the entire set will be at a higher Ilvl. The reason was to motivate players to clear the second coil.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 03-22-2014 at 11:17 PM.

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    Are we really calling them Yoshitomes? I just want to make sure we're all on the same page so we can make this a thing.
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    y; at 2.2 the highest weapon level is 115
    y; armor gear is 110
    y; 90-95-100-110-115 is the order
    f; will you be able to upgrade the relics
    y; we have the zodiac weapon
    y; in-game it’s called zodiac weapon story, this is going to start in 2.2
    y; it won’t end at 2.2
    y; we already have 2.25 patch and we’re going to update more in here
    y; and then another upgrade in 2.3
    y; so please think of this as something that will be upgraded over time
    y; it’s not something easy to do
    y; right now in XIV end content, for bahamut coil, you defeat a strong monster you obtain a specific item, and another method is to obtain tomestones to get the weapon

    Taken from Reinhearts translation. He doesn't mention Coil armour being higher, only weapons were mentioned in regards to a higher ilvl.
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    Actually he does mention it being higher:

    Foxclon: Next question, will the item level from the new Bahamut's Coil and the item level from the Tomestone of Soldiery gear be the same?

    YoshiP: If you compare the items that you can simply buy with Tomestones of Soldiery and the gear that drops from the new Bahamut's Coil, then it will be different. In 2.0 the items obtained from Bahamut's Coil was the same level as Mythology Tome gear so I believe that might have affected some players motivation to try Coil out. But this time we put in some changes so that they won’t be equal (same.)
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    Foxclon: Next question, will there be gear that will fill the gap in between ivl90 and the gears from 2.2.

    YoshiP: Armor progression will go 90-100-110. Weapons will be able to go to 115.

    With this information in hand it can be assumed that High Allagan armor will be level 110 and Soldiery Tomestone gear will be level 100.
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    Well that is a major design flaw, now if you want the top gear you HAVE to do Coil. Mixing and matching gear was fun, way to turn the game into even more of a weekly clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistopheles View Post
    Well that is a major design flaw, now if you want the top gear you HAVE to do Coil. Mixing and matching gear was fun, way to turn the game into even more of a weekly clear.
    Nah it is not. You can't just have the best gear in the game handed to everyone freely. As for the mixing and matching, this thread aims to have a new customization option .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistopheles View Post
    Well that is a major design flaw, now if you want the top gear you HAVE to do Coil. Mixing and matching gear was fun, way to turn the game into even more of a weekly clear.
    MAJOR design flaw! Doing the hardest content to get the best gear? Terrible! I should be able to get the best gear through WP spam!
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    If 'best gear' means 'highest iLevel' then you have an odd idea of what 'best' means. If you've ever played even one Monster Hunter game then you'd know that 'best' and 'highest level' sometimes don't coincide. The armor in this game seems to fall in with this mentality in about the same frequency as Monster Hunter. Take the best hand piece for White Mage (hint: it's Darklight).
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