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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Also, can your retainer perform ventures in areas your character has yet to enter/discover? Can it gather items you have yet to obtain on your own?
    As it turns out we cannot do this. For example, this morning I made one of my Retainers a Botanist. In order to have her use that class, I had to first unlock it. Then I attempted to send her out to gather Earth Shards, but was denied.

    I could not send her out to gather an Earth Shard until I had gone out as a Botanist first and harvested at least one Earth Shard myself. So, it's not possible to send Retainers out on Ventures to hunt/harvest items that your character has not already obtained before.
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    M'ete'leskum B'leskum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkiller View Post
    So, it's not possible to send Retainers out on Ventures to hunt/harvest items that your character has not already obtained before.
    Thanks for confirming this however I believe the original question was about the areas (of the map / world) rather than specific items and as you can obtain majority of the items form multiply locations this doesn't prove anything. However the question here is if the reatiners actually even use the "standard" game locations to "explore" or if they even care if those were already discovered by our character or if they simply obtain the items based on some RNG algorithm and their level / gear? I believe it's latter as we'll hardly see groups of retainers running around Eorzea performing their quests
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    Isagael Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkiller View Post
    As it turns out we cannot do this. For example, this morning I made one of my Retainers a Botanist. In order to have her use that class, I had to first unlock it. Then I attempted to send her out to gather Earth Shards, but was denied.

    I could not send her out to gather an Earth Shard until I had gone out as a Botanist first and harvested at least one Earth Shard myself. So, it's not possible to send Retainers out on Ventures to hunt/harvest items that your character has not already obtained before.
    Yeah I messed around with my alts/main this morning and yup.

    (which is how I thought it was going to be, I just prefer clarification)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordraine View Post
    So I'm running into a new problem along the same lines. I picked up mining so I could make a retainer a miner. I got mining to level 5 and did the relevant quest. My retainer's max mining level is still 1, she cannot level up past 1, even though I'm now level 7. Does anyone know the actual determining factor for your retainer's max level?
    My educated guess looking at my main+ my alts is the game 'caps' you so that your alt can't go out and in theory, come back higher level than your PC on the same role. So low level, I believe you need to be above level 10ish...but higher up, the level between you and your retainer can be closer. On the 18hour venture for example, your retainer can easily gain 4-5 levels.


    Quote Originally Posted by HEC View Post
    Thanks for confirming this however I believe the original question was about the areas (of the map / world) rather than specific items and as you can obtain majority of the items form multiply locations this doesn't prove anything. However the question here is if the reatiners actually even use the "standard" game locations to "explore" or if they even care if those were already discovered by our character or if they simply obtain the items based on some RNG algorithm and their level / gear? I believe it's latter as we'll hardly see groups of retainers running around Eorzea performing their quests
    In this case, it seems it 'depends'

    When it comes to DOL....if you never gathered it neither can they. However, it WILL show up in your list as possible harvest assignments.

    When it comes to DOW/M....harder to say as well, I'm pretty sure every single one of us has touched an animal skin etc while leveling. But seemingly the retainer goes out and finds these things without asking 'hey, do you have the map to...'
    -Basically, this will be easier to tell 100% when people are higher rank and there's a better chance for a retainer to be assigned to go farm something you might not have gotten as a drop before

    All that said: One of my gathering Retainers is level 10+ and could do the quick exploration. She came back with a house roof. (I don't know how the lala carried it back, but she did). Anyway, I have never crafted a house roof/owned a house in game etc. So at least for the 'quick explorations' (where you say 'go have fun/surprise me), they literally can bring you basically anything, and you didn't need to touch it previously in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    my gathering Retainers is level 10+ and could do the quick exploration. She came back with a house roof. (I don't know how the lala carried it back, but she did).
    O.o - Nice! Poor Lalafeline - what size of the house was it for? Is is tradeable afterwards? Would be "funny" (not) to end up with your inventory / retainers stack-up full of housing items without possibility of using it (FC house prices are STILL way to high!!) or trading it in. But if I'm not mistaken only "unique" gear should be untradeable so if the venture produce the common items those should be tradeable the same way as if procured by another methods. One "sad" think though which I've discovered last night is that the ventures (the "currency") is untradebale which makes it impossible to send it to your alts So those of us having multiply reatiners on alts would need to procure the ventures directly on alts, join GC and level the alts to allow those retainers to level up as well.
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkiller View Post
    As it turns out we cannot do this. For example, this morning I made one of my Retainers a Botanist. In order to have her use that class, I had to first unlock it. Then I attempted to send her out to gather Earth Shards, but was denied.

    I could not send her out to gather an Earth Shard until I had gone out as a Botanist first and harvested at least one Earth Shard myself. So, it's not possible to send Retainers out on Ventures to hunt/harvest items that your character has not already obtained before.
    dang... I just made one of my retainer as fisher. Since I don't really like it (because of real life issues too), was hoping my retainer can go in my stead. Oh well... lol

    BTW, I wonder if retainer in future can be sent for gathering unyielded nodes like gold ore or darksteel ore for miner. I am a lvl 50 miner and I do have mined it before. Would've been kewl if that can happened.
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    Mordermi Auditore
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    BTW, I wonder if retainer in future can be sent for gathering unyielded nodes like gold ore or darksteel ore for miner. I am a lvl 50 miner and I do have mined it before. Would've been kewl if that can happened.
    I am very interested in this as well. I am working on a BTN retainer now. I'm sure someone will beat me to 50, but I'll post back here with the results if no one else does. Though, it may take a while depending on how quickly we can level at higher levels.
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