Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

[Versiroth]

I know.. i just got few of my allagan for my PLD as well....

I hope they at least make ti so we can convert or trade them in.... i still have my DL from 6 months ago hoping i can get reimbursed...

So.. you didn't get any use out of the DL gear then? It didn't make gaining the Allagan/myth easier? And now, you don't think having Myth/Allagan will make the new content easier to get started with?

This is an MMO and this is how MMOs work, Whether the progression is vertical or horizontal, gear that you work on getting for a while will always become useless (stat wise) eventually. And if it didn't, then no one would continue to play once they became BiS.

[Gormogon]

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It is old content. 2.2 is new 2.1 is old but if you want to feel bitter about these changes instead of appreciating and looking forward to all the new content that's on you.

[Akiva_Ninazu]

Someone probably said this already, but the ego behind the OP argument is astounding. It sums up as "I beat the content before the nerf and I don't want anyone else getting through it ever so I can keep using it to lift my e-peen."

If you've cleared it, move to the new stuff. That's what the rest of us will be doing. Someone else clearing it *after* you has absolutely no bearing on what you did, nor will their i90 gear mean *anything* next to the 110/115 stuff the Coil 2.0 player will be sporting.

If anything, I'm looking forward to the BREAK on the new content. With the HMs getting toned down, it will be that much easier to push alts and guildies through the old content. It won't take nearly as much effort and I'll be able to get back to working on the new top-tier stuff.

Obvious e-peen is obvious. No one cares when you got through what.

[Kiara1]

I have waited a long time to try out garuda and titan hm, I decided that I'd try to get some gear from crystal tower and maybe one or two ilvl 90. But now that they're nerfing it I don't really feel like trying it out anymore. What's the point, if we wipe it will just be easier. Feel so bummed out and I am not even sure if I want to play anymore. I think this game is great and I want the progress to be slower so that I won't get bored too quickly, but by nerfing everything they're doing the exact opposite.

It's like "Alright we got new content, screw the old one, new player shouldn't get the same experience as older players so let's just makie it so easy that they can't fail it"

I also read that they're nerfing my favourite dungeon, Pharos Sirius. I loved it cause we wiped so many times but manage to finally beat the bosses by trial and error.

Are people playing to have fun or to get the latest gear as soon as possible?

[Clavaat]

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You can remove the Echo Buff. If you want it to continue being difficult, you have that option. The progress is getting higher iLVLs. It will still be slow. Even if you leave the Echo Buff on, you will still die to most everything if you're standing in it. The only thing that will be easier is the speed of the fight itself. DPS will have an easier time, and healers as well. Tanking and mechanics of movement are still relevant.

[Kiara1]

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I just don't understand the concept. They get new content, which mean the game will live longer. You could take the step from fresh 50 to ilvl 70, and start farming ct for ilvl 80 then the myth gear and theen you get the chance to try the new content.
But instead they made it so you theoretically could get ilvl 80 (at least some parts) in one day by grinding ct. And try out the new content the same day you hit 50. And then when they've done the new content everyone will get bored and wait for the new content. Instead they could keep it as it is so that it took longer to get to the latest content for new players so they wouldn't get bored too fast.

Sorry if I'm typing in a really messy way and it might not even make any sense! But I'm too tired to figure out a smarter way to get my point out

[Gormogon]

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Well you're doing the latter obviously. Since you aren't even doing old content regardless if you have the gear for it or not. So your 2 cents are a complaint that you should take up with your own persona.

Most people want to do the content but they realize it is not possible when you have to rely on 3-7 people that you can't truly depend on. Which is why the amount of people that can down content is a very small percentage and will only get smaller and smaller for obvious reasons.

Every individual plays for their own reasons there's no point generalizing when you're only questioning up to 5-10 people here at most.

[Kiara1]

blah.

I don't know if you replied to my first or second post, but I'll assume you replied to first one.
And then I think you're wrong about how I play it. I have full ilvl 70 gear, yet I play the main scenario like once or twice a week. Or well the Praetorium at least cause I think the last boss is really fun and the music is awesome. I do Ifrit hm a couple of times a week even though I got my staff from him already just cause I think it's a really fun fight. And I was thinking that I'd try to take on Garuda hm this week. The gear doesn't really matter to me, I just want to enjoy the game and then slowly progress towards end game gear. That's why I don't like it when they're nerfing my favourite parts of the game.

I understand if they'd nerf these fights later, maybe after an expansion or so, but I think they're nerfing everything a bit too early. I started playing this game a month ago when there was a sale on steam. And I believe a lot of other people bought it as well during that sale. And some of them might not even have reached level 50 and SE are already nerfing the content they haven't had a chance to try

I'm basically just expressing my opinion about how I feel about the nerfs and I want to see if there are others out there who thinks like me

[Gormogon]

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You play in a way that causes you personal confliction because of the way you are. You already stated that twice and you probably aren't realizing it that you are your own barrier.

Regardless by the end of the day one's playstyle isn't changing, old content isn't extinct, and the echo buff is optional just like wearing best in slot gear. So the paranoia and complaining is still beyond me.

Attributes won't help with Landslide and I've seen Dragoons with over 5k HP get one shot by a couple stacked WoTL. So, adding 1.7K HP or so to a player with 3.5K HP won't stop them from being one shot if they can't dodge. More than anything, the buff will make it so the DPS race isn't as difficult to complete and so that healers have an easier time during unavoidable stuff.

It would be nice if Dragoon would use the buff as indication that it's okay to stop dpsing for a couple of seconds to avoid mechanics. Yet at least that do dodge can make up for 1 Dragoon in the party that dies to landslide or upheaval.

[Versiroth]

I have waited a long time to try out garuda and titan hm, I decided that I'd try to get some gear from crystal tower and maybe one or two ilvl 90. But now that they're nerfing it I don't really feel like trying it out anymore. What's the point, if we wipe it will just be easier. Feel so bummed out and I am not even sure if I want to play anymore. I think this game is great and I want the progress to be slower so that I won't get bored too quickly, but by nerfing everything they're doing the exact opposite.

I bet you still die to Titan HM plenty even after the nerf. It's like some people think these nerfs will mean people can just stand in landslide or WoTL and survive. They're not giving people a win button. If people can't dodge and play their class, they will still be halted at Titan HM.