Thread: Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I have no problems with the 'nerf' to the hard mode fights through the echo coming in, or a problem with part of the Pharos Sirius nerfs considering some of that place is just brutal for that ilvl (it feels like it should be a higher ilvl). But nerfing AK...REALLY!? You're nerfing one of the easiest endgame dungeons, one that is already hard to fail if people are halfway decent at their classes!? That's taking it too far, you might as well downgrade it to a beginner dungeon then.

The AK nerf aren't really a nerf, imho, to begin with. More like gutting the excessive fat in a fight in a mechanic that is being ignored by the majority of the player base. Also I wouldn't be surprised if AK starts offering as much as WP in terms of philo/myth or myth/soldiery.

Plaincracker isn't really an issue just an annoying slow.
Removing the bees just makes it less panicky while people still do the same exact thing, burst the wall.
Imminent Catastrophe doesn't even kill people anymore and as for Bubonic Cloud who even gets hit with that?

I really wish that all this fuss was rational but I just don't see it.

i love the fact that they are making these changes: I can only speak for myself, but due to my work schedule, I don't have the luxury of having a Coil static, or even a static for EX primals or what have you. Most of the content im forced to either DF, which is just playground practice mode, or deal with random PF, which I have no problem with, except that PF doesn't really get swinging until almost bedtime for me. Simply by unlocking Coil for DF, I can jump in, get the practical exp I need, then jump into those 2 fail=kick PF with not a care in the world. I enjoy a challenge, but when you have limited time, its nice that you can jump in and actually get something done. I don't see how Echo buffing (after several party wipes of course) being an option could be hurtful. At that point, I would think Echo would be a welcome relief! As for complaining about devaluing all the hard work that people have done, how? You cleared T5 with your uber FC the first week or whatever. Super awesome for you! You are a truly accomplished player! Perhaps you have been kitted out in full Allagan since the first month. Cool! So, why would you have a problem if people would have an easier time getting the allagan stuff. If its truly not about epeen, this is a non issue. Plus, for the really hardcore gamers on here, im sure you will have the 2nd coil whipped and Leviathan EX on farm within a few weeks, so then you get to ride the high horse for another 3-6 months. Whats the downside?

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I have no problems with the 'nerf' to the hard mode fights through the echo coming in, or a problem with part of the Pharos Sirius nerfs considering some of that place is just brutal for that ilvl (it feels like it should be a higher ilvl). But nerfing AK...REALLY!? You're nerfing one of the easiest endgame dungeons, one that is already hard to fail if people are halfway decent at their classes!? That's taking it too far, you might as well downgrade it to a beginner dungeon then.

with the remove of philosophy tomes AK is the new castrum, one of the 1st dungeons new lvl50 have to farm with their AF,GC weapon and crafted 40~accessories. it's not for the "high" ilvl player

I really dont understand all the crying about *nerfing* because in effect NOTHING has been nerfed at all. The game is still exactly the same as it was before but each individual player now has the option to use or not to use buffs.

NOTHING has been nerfed until you choose to accept the option to use the Buffs. So to all who say we players who will use the buffs aren't getting the full game experience that is your understanding not mine. I'm more than happy to take advantage of the buffs and I wont feel the slightest remorse if you frown at me for doing so. It's a game and I play for fun I don't find doing the same thing over and over and failing until you happen to luck a kill fun.

Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

I'll go straight to tell the OP with my answer:
No, I am not disappointed, I am very happy of all that. Me and all my friends in FC are not hardcore, play just few hours a day (when we play), and we all are happy to finally be able to get a clue to see some content it is right now unaccessible due to the difficulty level. A good number of us are stuck at Titan HM, that is, simply, too much difficult for the casual player and it locks all content that comes after that.

Titan HM deserves the nerf, because it is a stopping point for a lot of players, that are rejected on PF because the "hardcore" wants an ilvl far greater the very reason to go Titan, and have no clues on DF, that asks for 2 tanks when 1 will suffice and lowering DPS in a PUG makes the possibility to clear Titan HM near zero.

I just want to state somethings;

I do help my FC and friends all the time but we also sell runs.

While I can see a deffo decline in HM sells which I have no issue with they are cheap now anyways, i can see more sells for EXs happening;

If anything this echo buff makes it easier for the selling team to carry the 8th person XD.

I just want to squash the rumour that people honestly think with a 25% echo buff you can get past titan ex/ifrit by ignoring their mechs. Alot of ppl will still eat stacked plumes and hit off the platforms.

I might sound like an ass but am just trying to set expectations up for individuals, please dont hope that with this echo buff you'll clear the content with ease.

why caring?they are nerfing dungeons most of you are NOT doing anymore. I shouldn't matter, or you're lying to me if you tell me you are still going to do AK after 2.2 patch.

None of these dungeons are a walk in the park if you queue with the item level they require. You know what's the problem? You're running all of it in ilvl90. Get some gear from the wards and go into Pharos Sirius or Haukke Manor (Hard) in ilvl60. Now come back and elaborate of how it's nerfed. Even with the coming adjustments in 2.2, it will still be somewhat a nice challange with the ilvl it was designed for. Then again, people will come in ilvl110 and saying they just duo'ed it and how it's just a slap in the face to "hardcores".