Thread: Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

Originally Posted by Wildsprite

which boss is this? I hope you are not referring to Absolute Virtue because if you are I hate to burst your bubble here but he was beaten.

there are no unbeatable bosses in XI, never were. it was always about strategy and job setups with those bosses.

He was unbeatable for years before they nerfed him, which was about 3 years ago, don't quote me on the exact date of when he nerfed. Emphasis on the word "had" and not "has".

Originally Posted by Doo

Players fault, not game. Could of been any game, didn't people die from playing WoW? According to Wiki Answer: 3.

Iirc - and it's possible I don't, didn't someone die from a WoW marathon where he literally didn't eat, drink or use the bathroom or something stupid.

Originally Posted by Havenchild

Other things like ADS, High Voltage being esuna-able, I actually agree with. It makes no sense to reflect the urgency of a High Voltage being silenced, but give no option to recover properly if it does happen. In essence that's forcing a party setup to include two silencing classes.

This is also really damn true too.

I agree with everything you said with a minor modification to this. I have no problem with High Voltage being able to be removed with Esuna, however, they also stated that "The likelihood that players will be paralyzed by the attack High Voltage has been reduced."

I don't like this. Either have the mechanism or don't.

Originally Posted by Hik0

I have a little question for you and people who liked your post:
Have you, or your FC ever sold an HM/Ex win?
I bet for most the answer is yes.

your answer is "you really dont care if they pay you for it!!"

your actual issue is not that people can get to new content / have old done but that you can't make profit for it!!

My FC has, I have sold 1 Titan HM run where I got 10k, so if that counts and you consider it extreme bias for my concerns then so be it, but I really don't see one run as a habit or one that would that would cloud my judgement.

Note, my fc hasn't sold any since either right before or right after 2.1 so not really big issue there either.

If people want to sell Titan runs I have no problem with it. Nothing is FORCING people to buy runs, there are plenty of good groups out there. If someone can't get Titan down it's generally because they can't dodge. If that's the case and I take time out of my schedule to help you (a stranger, this does not apply to friends) then why shouldn't my time in some way be compensated? Do you work for free?

Regardless, like I said, I've only personally ever sold one and it was when I was asked to by a friend who was setting up a group for a sell run. It's not like I shouted in RT for an hour trying to find a customer.

Originally Posted by Chasely

He was not unbeatable for years before they nerfed him. Se then buffed him to remove said exploit. .

By them buffing him and removing exploit didn't they then make him unbeatable until the nerf? Remember that dev video of them killing him we were promised for months that never appeared? He was unbeatable and they knew it. If he was beatable they would have given us proof and not found it necessary to nerf him. Surely showing us how to do it is better than just making him a joke?

BTW, for all those commenting on my use of the term "hardcore". I don't consider myself hardcore because of content I have beaten - ask anyone who knows me, I sucked on Titan Ex for a month - but because of the time and energy I am willing to put in. I am not the best player, not by a long shot, but I am willing to learn and grow. Whether it's by doing content repeatedly till I get it, or doing research online.

Originally Posted by Fawkes

Good point, well taken. But note I said I have no problem with people selling them (not buying), that's their choice. Usually people who buy a run have at least tried. If someone just hit 50 and was like "screw this I'm just gonna buy it", then I hope they severely jack up the price on that player. This is basically why I DON'T sell runs. If someone is trying their best, putting in the time and effort I will absolutely help them. I do take issue with people buying runs (although this also is their choice) because they're no good to anyone on harder content if they can't even dodge a plume in HM. However, as long as there are lazy players there will be sellers, doesn't mean the practice of selling runs is hella-good, but if you're not going to help yourself then why should I?
I am sure I am not conveying myself as best I would like here, but right now I can't think of a better way to explain my point without creating a huge wall-o-text.