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  1. #241
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    But by doing that, you make other gear useless. By that I mean, an item at lvl30 may be better than items at lvl50...but all of the items in between are useless, too. IMO, the higher level item should be the better one.
    That's an extreme example. Even in XI at best one of the 'best' items that wasn't end-game were level 59-65 that was crafted at 75 cap. Most 'BiS' was spread through content which didn't create other gear being useless, it just means until you hit end-game, you actually had something worthwhile that wouldn't become useless in the next update.

    In XIV, DL was useless out the gate as Myth and coil gear already existed in terms of progression. Hell, even majority of the crafted gear in this game is worthless when dungeon drops is far superior due to added stats you can't get on crafting.
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  2. #242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    blah.
    I don't know if you replied to my first or second post, but I'll assume you replied to first one.
    And then I think you're wrong about how I play it. I have full ilvl 70 gear, yet I play the main scenario like once or twice a week. Or well the Praetorium at least cause I think the last boss is really fun and the music is awesome. I do Ifrit hm a couple of times a week even though I got my staff from him already just cause I think it's a really fun fight. And I was thinking that I'd try to take on Garuda hm this week. The gear doesn't really matter to me, I just want to enjoy the game and then slowly progress towards end game gear. That's why I don't like it when they're nerfing my favourite parts of the game.

    I understand if they'd nerf these fights later, maybe after an expansion or so, but I think they're nerfing everything a bit too early. I started playing this game a month ago when there was a sale on steam. And I believe a lot of other people bought it as well during that sale. And some of them might not even have reached level 50 and SE are already nerfing the content they haven't had a chance to try

    I'm basically just expressing my opinion about how I feel about the nerfs and I want to see if there are others out there who thinks like me
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  3. #243
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    Clavaat's Avatar
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    Osric Sylador
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    In XIV, DL was useless out the gate as Myth and coil gear already existed in terms of progression. Hell, even majority of the crafted gear in this game is worthless when dungeon drops is far superior due to added stats you can't get on crafting.
    That's an extreme example. You're lying to yourself if you say you didn't use DL for long time before having access to myth/allagan. FFXI was you get O.kotes at lvl34, you're set forever on SAM and MNK. Get AF, you're good for most content. They weren't even hard to get...just took unnecessarily long. Obviously, I'm talking pre-abyssea which is when I played.
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  4. #244
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Did not read all what everyone posted, but would say disappointed that they are lowering difficulty on Ak, i mean this will be the 2nd time and it is rather easy as it is
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  5. #245
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    Morticous Trucido
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    Basically this entire game annoys me. Way too casual.
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  6. #246
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    Rori Uguu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    Are people playing to have fun or to get the latest gear as soon as possible?
    Some people just like treating MMOs like single player games, others don't like putting a "huge" amount of effort according to them and they'll keep throwing IRL excuses for it or saying how it's just a videogame and they are entitled to one shot everything instead of naturally learning the fight and sticking with a group until they beat something or finding another group that's willing to learn the game's mechanics and gear properly, learn a fight and try for a win until the end, a really tiny amount of the player base really and honestly find every piece of content too hard for their videogame abilities. Most of them will most likely leave the game at some point the moment it simply becomes too hard for them, though the amount of people leaving because the game because is too easy will probably be higher than the people leaving because it's too hard. I seriously can't believe there are people this unwilling to stick to a fight or find a good group of friends and people to do content with and keep trying until they win, and I say this as someone who considers himself bad at videogames and took two weeks just to get to Titan EXs final phase and just beat Twintania three weeks ago for the first time, though I've met a couple of people who just wouldn't listen to even the most basic of advices and kept saying how the game was too hard so you never know.

    Fun for some people seems to be clearing content while taking the path of least resistance, buffs included, they're similar to the type of people who'll defend cheats in single player games or options to skip combat, and I also say that as someone who's used trainers, cheatcodes, savestates and even lowered the difficulty in single player games because I just wanted to beat a game. They'll also bash you for dictating what's fun for them and how that's just like your opinion man and they'll take everything as a personal insult, you really can't win against them.
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  7. #247
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    Silke Silke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Did not read all what everyone posted, but would say disappointed that they are lowering difficulty on Ak, i mean this will be the 2nd time and it is rather easy as it is
    Ak will be easier than qarn now lol. They're making it for the brain dead for some reason.

    Anyway remember when developers made games for gamers back in the day. Now we have people playing games they're bad at(is it actually fun for them?) I can guess these people only play mmos for the social aspect and attention and some reason games are designed for them
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  8. #248
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libby9 View Post
    Ak will be easier than qarn now lol. They're making it for the brain dead for some reason.

    Anyway remember when developers made games for gamers back in the day. Now we have people playing games they're bad at(is it actually fun for them?) I can guess these people only play mmos for the social aspect and attention and some reason games are designed for them
    So, people that also have actual lives aren't gamers all of a sudden? Just because they don't care to slap their epeen up side people's head to make up for were their life lacks otherwise, doesn't make them any less of a gamer than you.

    BTW, did you like how I threw in those assumption based off nothing at all? Does that concept sound familiar?
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  9. #249
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    Akira Ono
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    I bet you still die to Titan HM plenty even after the nerf. It's like some people think these nerfs will mean people can just stand in landslide or WoTL and survive. They're not giving people a win button. If people can't dodge and play their class, they will still be halted at Titan HM.
    Actually, with a 50% increase in stats they probably could stand in WoTL and survive.
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  10. #250
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    I have waited a long time to try out garuda and titan hm, I decided that I'd try to get some gear from crystal tower and maybe one or two ilvl 90. But now that they're nerfing it I don't really feel like trying it out anymore. What's the point, if we wipe it will just be easier. Feel so bummed out and I am not even sure if I want to play anymore. I think this game is great and I want the progress to be slower so that I won't get bored too quickly, but by nerfing everything they're doing the exact opposite.
    By overgearing content (full DL is far enough for HM primals) you're already nerfing it passively. but I don't think you've even considered it that way. They are just accelerating the process that the players already do. Instead of farming for equipment you don't need to do the fights, they give you a bonus to beat the fights without the stuff farming method.


    All in all, players dumbing content due to overgear or beating it with buff at the right equipment level, I can't see any difference
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