Thread: Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

Originally Posted by ZephyrAM

Everything is about the fun. If it isn't fun, it's not worth doing.

Sometimes the challenge is the fun, not the acheivment from "Pushing" through it. Just the challenge to many people is also what they consider to be the "Fun" part. Your on a roll on painting really broad strokes today.

Originally Posted by Peptaru

There are no easier games. This is the pinnacle... maybe unicorn dash or something.. fruit ninja?
The people complaining the most about these "nerfs" are people who won't even see them.

Oh, there ARE easier games. This most certainly isn't the hardest out there, but it's also not the easiest.

Originally Posted by Jynx

Sometimes the challenge is the fun, not the acheivment from "Pushing" through it. Just the challenge to many people is also what they consider to be the "Fun" part. Your on a roll on painting really broad strokes today.

Indeed. For example, I could care less about the reward/item/whatever at the end of a hard fight, for me it's the fight itself that's enjoyable. Like Titan EX, most people I see hate it, I enjoy the fight, on all roles no less.

Originally Posted by DragonFist

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I think you're confused about what an elitist is. Not to mention being insulting about it in regards to people who the label doesn't even apply to. For me, am I dissapointed? Sure. Am I also ok with it? Sure. It means I did it before it got nerfed, but dissapointed because people who want it at the original difficulty from this point on, will have a harder time doing so because most people will want to abuse the nerf. Path of least resistance and such. So they won't get to experience the original difficulty due to other players preventing it.

Learning is fun.

Originally Posted by ispano

I think you're confused about what an elitist is. Not to mention being insulting about it in regards to people who the label doesn't even apply to. For me, am I dissapointed? Sure. Am I also ok with it? Sure. It means I did it before it got nerfed, but dissapointed because people who want it at the original difficulty from this point on, will have a harder time doing so because most people will want to abuse the nerf. Path of least resistance and such. So they won't get to experience the original difficulty due to other players preventing it.

then remove the buff and lower your ilevel regardless of how SE nerfs it as you get higher gear the things like ex primals will become stupidly easy regardless and as for me being insulting tbh i couldnt care u realise how many players every day that are elitists make groups and rage quit or start raging in chat at people for not dodging 1 plume the entire fight or anything that effects the fight end of the day you have 2 options lower your ilevel and remove the buff to keep it challenging or put up with the nerf and stop complaining is that simple you dont want to lower your gear to have a challenge? then keep to t6-9 moogle ex and levi ex untill new stuff comes out u are inevitable going to be getting better gear therefore you will find content easier and easier until the point its not a challenge that is the inevitable fate of speed gearing classes i see so many people spam everything on a monday then moan there is nothing to do in the week also people make coil statics if there was no statics u would not have a group that runs together every week knowing what every1 does i love the idea T1-5 will be on DF it makes the challenge even harder because there WILL be players who have no clue players who die and yes wipes is that not a challenge enough for you tank or heal it maybe then you will find a random party hard when dps arent doing enough healers arent healing properly tanks arent holding hate or using mitigation hell if you win lmao grats u did it with a DF of some ppl that may be good and some that may be absolutely terrible if people want to abuse the nerf let them stick to your fc if its so bad that people want to get things over and done with instead of 10+ wipes a party disband and multiple more party wipes because yes that does happen and no its not something that will be a full party in 10mins if people want an easier way then by all means atleast they are learning(i hope) with the buff so they might not need it next time if they arent confident that they can beat it without let them use it lol not like your gonna be like oh no sorry no buff(insta kick) now are u ...well.... some ppl would but still

I didn't beat EX primals. But I want to beat them if I become better player, not because content nerfed. So yes, I am disappointed of this.

And it reminds me DiabloIII, when I progressed from chapter 1 to 2 because content was nerfed, not because I became better. Same here.

Originally Posted by ispano

See that's the thing, I'm not saying it should or shouldn't happen. I understand it both ways. To counter this: "And what's with the unhealthy obsession of other players being forced to experience the original difficulty?" Why will people be forced to fight the nerfed version? And before you respond that they won't, how many people are you going to find that will be willing to do it without the echo buff? It's practically being forced.

And they also stated that content would be nerfed when new stuff is released some time ago. I get that people feel it's being forced on the players, but it really isn't because...well, I won't be redundant. I agree with some points of the debate at hand and disagree with others, but it's happening, and at least some people knew it was coming from 100 miles away.

Originally Posted by Vahlnir

And they also stated that content would be nerfed when new stuff is released some time ago. I get that it's people feel it's being forced on the players, but it really isn't because...well, I won't be redundant. I agree with some points of the debate at hand and disagree with others, but it's happening, and at least some people knew it was coming from 100 miles away.

Oh I knew it would happen as well, I'm just annoyed at some of the responses.