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  1. #131
    Player Axlle10's Avatar
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    Axle Ten
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Betox View Post
    The problem is: not everyone is skilled
    Here is exhibit A of why SE is being smart by doing these changes. All you hardcores really need to get your heads out of your behinds and actually think about people that dont have the time to devote to the game but still want some FUN. For you hardcores it is all about the CHALLENGE, for casuals it is all about the FUN. sure everyone likes a little challenge from content, but when you run titan ex and 1 person makes a mistake, it then is not a challenge to you but a massive headache. No fun is to be had when stuff like that happens.

    tldr:
    Everyone enjoys different things, casuals=FUN, hardcore=Challenge. I approve of these changes because i will now get to clear these with my FC mates instead of the elitist "KILL EXP ONLY" parties that 90% of the time belittle and berate anyone who makes one mistake.
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  2. #132
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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 66
    If I'm not finishing content fast enough to get to it before it's nerfed, which would mean SE's generating content faster than I'm completing it, I really can't say I'd personally complain if the older stuff is a little quicker to get through just so I'm not falling behind quite so quickly.

    I would assume the 'hardcore' would consider it an insult to their reputation if they didn't manage to consume the latest patch content before the 3 month wait for the next patch is over, and 3 months seems rather generous to me, and I neither consider myself hardcore nor do I have a tremendous amount of time to play each day.
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    Last edited by Seig345; 03-24-2014 at 12:34 AM.
    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

  3. #133
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    starswept's Avatar
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    Kibeth Starswept
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    Ridill
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    Pugilist Lv 1
    I'm not disappointed. So what that they are nerfing the OLD content. They arent nerfing the new stuff.
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  4. #134
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    Aldorin Sundir
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    If you are on your first relic for AK, you don't have the best gear. You aren't farming HM primals, Castrum isn't farmable like it was and AK is a road block. Your options are limited aside from farming WP like crazy. Though many HC players would say to farm WP, this simply isn't fun. If a game isn't fun, people don't play. "Nerfing" AK makes it so newer players can have opportunities without having to mindlessly grind. It's encouraging people to take on the challenges that come later.

    For FATES, the truth is that people don't do them as much. Certainly some FATES are still farmed but many are not. This makes some FATES to hard because of less people. This isn't nerfing FATES, it's balancing them so people can do them.

    For Sirius, people just don't do this dungeon. I get why. It's more difficult than other dungeons with no payoff. There is no incentive. Scaling it back isn't nerfing so much as it is balancing it and making it a more viable option to play alongside HM dungeons.
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  5. #135
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Balfreid View Post
    Old content gets nerfed, new content gets released. Welcome to the current cycle of MMORPGs. This has been happening for years.
    I'm kinda hoping for the Primals they do what they did in Coil, with the Echo buff. Keep it if you can't clear it without help, click it off for the old challenge.
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  6. #136
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    I'm disappointed in the model where only the newest content is worth doing and old content is worthless. I wonder if in 2 years we'll have 50 dungeons no one ever goes to.
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  7. #137
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    Seijuro Hiko
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    I'm kinda hoping for the Primals they do what they did in Coil, with the Echo buff. Keep it if you can't clear it without help, click it off for the old challenge.
    primals echo only pop if you wipe: do not wipe and you have old challenge (or exit/restart if in a premade)
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  8. #138
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    Tyri Lockhart
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Betox View Post
    I can tell many people are like me, they will never be able to play or have fun with some content because the wall is in their own skills so i approve the changes.
    I don't get this mentality. Who is forcing you to do end game content?

    You can't even clear Titan HM yet you expect a free ride for everything beyond it. Why not just remove all the challenge and give everyone free gear.

    According to this forums, RNG, farming tomes and wiping on a boss because you're bad are all timesinks, so lets just nerf everything and hand out free epics because that's all what this game is about!
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  9. #139
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nils1986 View Post
    If you can't duck an aoe in a fight, why can you duck it in another fight? An aoe is still an aoe round/linear/square or whatever. "The truth is elsewhere"
    None of your arguments are relevant... I really love when you make me say things I did not...it's kinda getting boring tho but yeah, go on.
    Different AoE give you different time to go out
    Some AoE give you a lot of time, other AoE you need to be out before it show up on your screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    I'm disappointed in the model where only the newest content is worth doing and old content is worthless. I wonder if in 2 years we'll have 50 dungeons no one ever goes to.
    Why should a dungeon that give you the newest tomes not be worth to do it? Content that gave you philo tomes give you with 2.2 myth tomes. Content that gave you myth tomes give you the new tomes.
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    Last edited by Felis; 03-24-2014 at 01:41 AM.

  10. #140
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    delphinius81's Avatar
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    Vin Fyrerun
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    Goblin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I used to be a hardcore MMO raider. Now due to work and just getting older, the amount of time I have to play is much less (from a few hours a night to a few hours a week). I'd love to be in Coil, but instead I'm still gearing up for primal fights. Frankly though, I'm afraid to join any primal, hard dungeon, or CT groups. I see too much complaining about people not knowing the fights inside and out before they first step in. By all means, leave content at its original difficulty. But if you do, don't complain when players are first getting to the content and are learning the fights. If you are going to complain, let the content be nerfed so people don't rage quit out of frustration.


    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    I'm disappointed in the model where only the newest content is worth doing and old content is worthless. I wonder if in 2 years we'll have 50 dungeons no one ever goes to.
    Probably. That's the way it is in every MMO. At least FF14 caps you to the dungeon level range so it is useful for leveling. I really wish MMOs would auto-scale mob/boss levels so you could pick a level to do the dungeon (like LOTRO skirmishes). Tie loot tables to the dungeon level (and maybe some other parameters), and then you have dungeon content that never becomes worthless.
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