Thread: Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

Originally Posted by alhandra

EX primals have barely been out 3 months, at this point they might as well just release leviathan x with the buff too, wtf is the point in releasing in unbuffed at all? f**k it, echo buffs should just be on all content the moment its released, if people dont like it they can just click it off. seems legit

EX Primals are going to be as hard next week as they are today. The echo buff won't even exist until mid april, and then it'll be a measly +5% for Extremes. Maybe in a few months, with the full 25% echo buff, the fights might actually be easier for people who are having a hard time now. But don't act like they are being trivialized 3 months after they came out, because they aren't.

Originally Posted by Fawkes

EX Primals are going to be as hard next week as they are today. The echo buff won't even exist until mid april, and then it'll be a measly +5% for Extremes. Maybe in a few months, with the full 25% echo buff, the fights might actually be easier for people who are having a hard time now. But don't act like they are being trivialized 3 months after they came out, because they aren't.

if they will be so inconsequential then why add them at all? why not just let people get better over time, if it takes a person 3 months to clear something then they should be a better player at the end of it right? we should encourage people to become players, at this rate there is no motivation for a person to really buckle down and learn mechanics, they can just wait it out

maybe im just oldschool, but i would rather see players get better and help themselves through content that is hard, rather than get buffs scripted into the fight to make it easier for them

Originally Posted by Kuwagami

you're wrong on this. Only Coil will have a timed buff. Primals will have a "live 3 mins then wipe to get" buff stackable up to 5 times (even Ex)

Players will now receive the power of the Echo in the event all party members are incapacitated during certain trials.
Requirement
Players are incapacitated after having battled enemies for a certain period of time.
Echo Effect
Increased HP, attack power, and healing potency.

For the following duties and trials, each stack of the Echo will raise attributes by 10% up to a maximum of 50%. However, players will only receive the Echo after having battled enemies for three minutes prior to being incapacitated.

The Bowl of Embers (Hard) / The Howling Eye (Hard) / The Navel (Hard) / Thornmarch (Hard) / A Relic Reborn: The Chimera / A Relic Reborn: The Hydra

For the following duties and trials, each stack of the Echo will raise attributes by 5% up to a maximum of 25%. However, players will only receive the Echo after having battled enemies for three minutes prior to being incapacitated.

The Minstrel's Ballad: Ultima's Bane/The Howling Eye (Extreme)/The Navel (Extreme)/The Bowl of Embers (Extreme)

They all start low and are increased incrementally over time, and all require you to wipe first to get it.

Originally Posted by Fawkes

They all start low and are increased incrementally over time, and all require you to wipe first to get it.

Your quote doesn't even include Coil. The Coil Echo buff is entirely separate from the Primal ones, in that it won't even appear for the first 2 weeks, then after that it's automatically turned on and gets larger every week. Check the Q&A if you want proof.

As for the OP, don't try and talk sense into these forums. They WILL put words into your mouth, spout out buzzwords like "elitist" and "special snowflake", and respond to all arguments with "Lol why do you care?". Community and progression in MMOs is dead.