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    I'm really quite curious, how difficult was FFxi?
    Well, if you had the kind of players that the majority of FFXIV seems to be in these nerf threads. No one would have made it to Sky or Sea. Dynamis would maul everyone everytime a MNK, SMN or NIN enemy came. Well, they might get lucky one 1 or 2 mobs, but 2 time out of 3, people mess up stun rotations and such in this game.

    Anyway, I agree with OP. Nerfs feels sort of like how they are doing with kids sport these days. Everyone gets a trophy even if they lose the game. I have even heard that they have games where they don't keep score.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post

    You're right, people will either rise to the occasion or they won't. So, if they don't, you think they should just quit the game for a year?
    No, I think they should take the time to learn the content, their class, to push themselves and practice. If you won't do that then why should you get the same rewards as those that do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    I'm really quite curious, how difficult was FFxi? I don't consider "grind" to be a part of "difficult" btw.
    CoP was hard. And not just in the typical FFXI way of being extremely time consuming. Although it was also that.

    People complained every time CoP was made easier too, because they failed to understand that hard content gets harder on it's own over time by nature of all the good players not wanting to do it anymore, and especially not with new or inexperienced players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuponutz View Post
    Is it so terrible that I wish that other players had the same sense of pride in their accomplishments?
    Other players do not care of what YOU wish for them. Honestly. Not being mean there. You are just not entitled to decide/wish/want anything for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuponutz View Post
    Most players coming from XI to XIV are looking for a similar experience.
    Welcome to reality: this is not XI, it is XIV...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    It's hardly a nerf. It's more like an option.

    If you want to do 2.2 at "original difficulty" you still can. Simply opt out of the echo buff and don't be over geared for the fights!
    Nobody can take away someones accomplishments. This is really a non-issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    I'm really quite curious, how difficult was FFxi? I don't consider "grind" to be a part of "difficult" btw.
    After playing XI for 9+ years, I can tell you that it was mostly a time sink. I love the game, it was my first MMO, but I can't pretend that it was the holy grail of MMOs.
    Yes, certain things were difficult however the overwhelming majority of content was a time sink.
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    Last edited by Anapingofness; 03-23-2014 at 07:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuponutz View Post
    Should everyone be entitled to the same rewards regardless of skill level or time invested? I really don't think so.
    As a casual FFXIV player, I actually agree with this ^. You worked for it, you earned it!
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    WUB WUB

    FFXI- Seraph

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    Other players do not care of what YOU wish for them. Honestly. Not being mean there. You are just not entitled to decide/wish/want anything for them.
    I never said what other people should think, just how I feel. I can wish whatever I want to want/wish whatever I want. Doesn't mean they have to wish/want or even consider the same thing.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapingofness View Post

    If you want to do 2.2 at "original difficulty" you still can. Simply opt out of the echo buff and don't be over geared for the fights!
    Ok, so there will be a button to make the bees appear in AK? To make moves on AK bosses hit with the same intensity? For FATES to retain difficulty?

    Great, I retract everything I said then.
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    Haha this cracks me up. I know, deep down, that most of the people who are complaining just want to come back to the content when the are over geared for it.

    "Hey i need to run a friend through AK. Watch me solo the wall (because of my awesome dps)."

    This is all they want. This is all they are upset about "losing" despite the fact that an effort to die (Aside from the auto application in coil...which can just be dispelled) needs to be made before even getting the buff.

    As far as the bees are concerned. People who are so far passed AK burn the wall before the bees even pop. Missing the bees is a non-issue because no one waits for them anyway. New players wont even miss the bees because they will be removed.
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    Last edited by Xairos; 03-23-2014 at 07:52 AM.

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