Thread: Is anyone else really disappointed with the nerfs coming in 2.2?

I'm on the fence on all of this. I have downed all the content in game already.

I kinda see the OP's argument on keeping difficulty the same while also understanding the need to open up the content to newer players.

Their is a sense of accomplishment that comes with downing un-nerfed content but on the same token, the persons who have not done it, why would they care otherwise? They have not done the content anyway so to them everything would be new.

Think about it this way, when OoBG had first T5 video, people didn't rise to the challenge to just grind out all the same the way they did. Nope, majority of people watched their video and guess what, many people now mimic their T5 ritual while there's several other methods.

I guess what im trying to say is, pre-nerfed content is only an issue for the people who feel accomplishment for tackling said pre-nerfed content with no assistance, otherwise no one should watch videos of successful attempts because in essence that would also be making the game easier.

Do I think some extremes should remain unchanged? Yes, but with some restraint.

I personally think Titan Extreme is one of the best designed fights, absent of the lag some players experience, because honestly it's some of the most advanced content at current you can get given the play style of our current battle system. In such, I'd hate to see it nerfed in essence, but an echo buff, may not be so bad. Its rare that people fail Titan Ex, because they couldn't do enough damage (with everyone up/no weakness) but more because of failure at dodging so what would, an echo buff do for them if they still can't dodge lol

Same thing with Ifrit EX, if tanks don't swap properly if people aren't dodging correctly or healers are flubbing on healing or searing wind, again an echo buff probably wouldn't add too much to the mix and if nails are actually breaking quicker due to higher DPS, this actually may make it more difficult.

Garuda EX stands to be the only primal that can actually be made easier via echo buff, because you essentially make it easier to tank with more HP and go through rotations faster with higher DPS overall.

Other things like ADS, High Voltage being esuna-able, I actually agree with. It makes no sense to reflect the urgency of a High Voltage being silenced, but give no option to recover properly if it does happen. In essence that's forcing a party setup to include two silencing classes.

Originally Posted by ValkyrieL

I don't know why the instances are been nerf when they will already get a "nerf" via overgear with uncap myth and the new gear.

This is also really damn true too.

Originally Posted by Havenchild

Other things like ADS, High Voltage being esuna-able, I actually agree with. It makes no sense to reflect the urgency of a High Voltage being silenced, but give no option to recover properly if it does happen. In essence that's forcing a party setup to include two silencing classes.

This is also really damn true too.

I agree with everything you said with a minor modification to this. I have no problem with High Voltage being able to be removed with Esuna, however, they also stated that "The likelihood that players will be paralyzed by the attack High Voltage has been reduced."

I don't like this. Either have the mechanism or don't.

Originally Posted by Hik0

I have a little question for you and people who liked your post:
Have you, or your FC ever sold an HM/Ex win?
I bet for most the answer is yes.

your answer is "you really dont care if they pay you for it!!"

your actual issue is not that people can get to new content / have old done but that you can't make profit for it!!

My FC has, I have sold 1 Titan HM run where I got 10k, so if that counts and you consider it extreme bias for my concerns then so be it, but I really don't see one run as a habit or one that would that would cloud my judgement.

Note, my fc hasn't sold any since either right before or right after 2.1 so not really big issue there either.

If people want to sell Titan runs I have no problem with it. Nothing is FORCING people to buy runs, there are plenty of good groups out there. If someone can't get Titan down it's generally because they can't dodge. If that's the case and I take time out of my schedule to help you (a stranger, this does not apply to friends) then why shouldn't my time in some way be compensated? Do you work for free?

Regardless, like I said, I've only personally ever sold one and it was when I was asked to by a friend who was setting up a group for a sell run. It's not like I shouted in RT for an hour trying to find a customer.

Originally Posted by Fawkes

Good point, well taken. But note I said I have no problem with people selling them (not buying), that's their choice. Usually people who buy a run have at least tried. If someone just hit 50 and was like "screw this I'm just gonna buy it", then I hope they severely jack up the price on that player. This is basically why I DON'T sell runs. If someone is trying their best, putting in the time and effort I will absolutely help them. I do take issue with people buying runs (although this also is their choice) because they're no good to anyone on harder content if they can't even dodge a plume in HM. However, as long as there are lazy players there will be sellers, doesn't mean the practice of selling runs is hella-good, but if you're not going to help yourself then why should I?
I am sure I am not conveying myself as best I would like here, but right now I can't think of a better way to explain my point without creating a huge wall-o-text.

OP, just look at it this way.

You beat it before Nerf, and it will be recorded in history.

The reward for working toward something and given things to you.


Tho i wish the icon for weapon/armor obtained before nerf would look different form faceroll version.