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  1. #151
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    Kaaylryn's Avatar
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    Yshelle Dawnholder
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    As an exemple, I could talk about Titan Ex. I once thought I would be proud to defeat him. I now know I'll use the 5 wipes bonus to get him done once for all and never look back at that poorly designed fight (no fight should be THAT lag-dependent). I will have no sense of achievement. Even if I manage to beat him with no buff and no overgear. I just hate him too much to bother about him.
    I would give you 10 likes if I could. I feel the same way about Titan. I could care less about that fight, I just want it done and over with.
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    I have no prayer for that...

  2. #152
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    Horobi Jainame
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    Do you REALLY think the Echo buff will alow you to make titan EX in easy mode? lol

    Echo makes the fight easier and faster, but it won't allow you to ignore mechanics. -You'll still wipe if you kill spinny or take wrong tanking positions, against garuda.
    -You'll still wipe if you eat super bomb or bait landslide badly, against titan.
    -You'll still wipe if your healer like to stand middle of the arena with searing wind, or if tanks can't trade the tanking, against ifrit.

    So many overdone reactions from this. Just be happy with the new contents. Why so unhappy about more peoples getting allagan? It'll be the new standard like how DL was the standard in 2.1, and you get better stuff from the new content.

    All i'm seeing here are complains "oh noooess gotta work for my stuff again now, where are the videos!?".
    It's a game, reseting the tables is good too for the fun.
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  3. #153
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    Yes they are losing a lot of casual players that\\'s why they are nerfing it. I am not a casual players but even the guys that came from 11 in my FC are getting sick and tired of the same loot drops from coil runs and the day they don\\'t run it, it drops. Currently since I\\'ve been running coil I have seen tons of am loot the same drg pants,top and hands drop. By removing the weekly lockout it gives casual players a chance to try the new expansion also new challenges with zodiac weapons coil 2 and might I add some ppl still have a hard time dodging in Titan ex so it\\'s not really becoming easy you still need to know how to pull for Garuda ex and not kill the spiny plumes
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  4. #154
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    ispano's Avatar
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axlle10 View Post
    Everyone enjoys different things, casuals=FUN, hardcore=Challenge.
    Very poor way to label. The correct way is Casuals = Fun, Hardcore = Fun. The problem with how you did it is you label Hardcore players as not having fun, when in fact, the challenge is what MAKES it fun. If there's no challenge, it's the same as watching TV. ie Fun is subjective. Everyone plays a game to have fun, your fun isn't the same as everyone elses.
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  5. #155
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    Uriah Nool
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    Balmung
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    I personally have more fun when I can shred through a boss fight with only a little strategy than the challenge of a super tough fight that needs to be redone a hundred times before getting my timing just right. I mean, if I am max level and earned some nice gear, shouldn't I be rewarded by having content easier than being under geared? If people want a challenge then they can fight in their underpants.
    (1)
    "There's a time when a man needs to fight, and a time when he needs to accept that his destiny is lost, that the ship has sailed, and that only a fool would continue. The truth is, I've always been a fool."

  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriahnool View Post
    I personally have more fun when I can shred through a boss fight with only a little strategy than the challenge of a super tough fight that needs to be redone a hundred times before getting my timing just right. I mean, if I am max level and earned some nice gear, shouldn't I be rewarded by having content easier than being under geared? If people want a challenge then they can fight in their underpants.
    A hundred times? Really good players can pick up new mechanics in 1-2 tries. I don't expect that of most people. But a hundred(yes, I know, not literally 100 tries)? For someone like me, something involving little skill/strategy/whatever, is boring, it's like sitting on the couch and watching commercials.

    So the response to your last line would be something like "If people want easy content, they can go play easier games"
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    Last edited by ispano; 03-24-2014 at 03:36 AM.

  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriahnool View Post
    I personally have more fun when I can shred through a boss fight with only a little strategy than the challenge of a super tough fight that needs to be redone a hundred times before getting my timing just right. I mean, if I am max level and earned some nice gear, shouldn't I be rewarded by having content easier than being under geared? If people want a challenge then they can fight in their underpants.
    yeah 'fight in their underpants' elitists and hardcore players moaning about echo buffs and nerfs here is an idea do coil turn 6-9 get new gear and when u go back to ex primals lower your gear because guess what the fight is going to get easier if you get better gear regardless try lowering your gear if you want the challenge stop crying about how new players are going to be helped to catch up to where current hardcore players are
    99% of the gamers are casual you really think SE is going to say screw the 99% im going to make stuff ONLY for those that are hardcore elitist
    as for AK dude the bees overgeared players burn the wall so bees make no diff if new players get help the same thing will still happen the wall will be crushed by those helping the only way it would be a challenge is lowering your ilvl or being new and the party being completely full of new ppl

    quit acting like a 2 year old in a candy shop that cant have candy lmao there is ways to make things difficult your just too dumb to find them so you cry on forums about how they are making stuff easy
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  8. #158
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    Lynia Celeste
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Very poor way to label. The correct way is Casuals = Fun, Hardcore = Fun. The problem with how you did it is you label Hardcore players as not having fun, when in fact, the challenge is what MAKES it fun. If there's no challenge, it's the same as watching TV. ie Fun is subjective. Everyone plays a game to have fun, your fun isn't the same as everyone elses.
    There is a difference here though. A hardcore player 'will' push through something, even if they don't enjoy it, to achieve a goal. They may enjoy a good challenge, but they're there to achieve.

    A 'casual' will likely just go elsewhere for enjoyment. Everything is about the fun. If it isn't fun, it's not worth doing.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1556132 ~ Lynia Celeste

  9. #159
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFist View Post
    -snip-
    Casual doesn't make a player bad. Casual doesn't mean said player isn't skilled. Casual doesn't mean said player doesn't want a challenge. Same if you reverse it with Hardcore players.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrAM View Post
    There is a difference here though. A hardcore player 'will' push through something, even if they don't enjoy it, to achieve a goal. They may enjoy a good challenge, but they're there to achieve.

    A 'casual' will likely just go elsewhere for enjoyment. Everything is about the fun. If it isn't fun, it's not worth doing.
    Not necessarily. Part of it is how you look at what a Hardcore person is, and if you can put yourself, and I mean TRULY put yourself, in their mindset. From my experience, not many people can do that. I would not label someone who forces themselves to push through something they don't enjoy, Hardcore.
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    Last edited by ispano; 03-24-2014 at 03:42 AM.

  10. #160
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    Tarragon Lai
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    A hundred times? Really good players can pick up new mechanics in 1-2 tries. I don't expect that of most people. But a hundred(yes, I know, not literally 100 tries)? For someone like me, something involving little skill/strategy/whatever, is boring, it's like sitting on the couch and watching commercials.

    So the response to your last line would be something like "If people want easy content, they can go play easier games"
    There are no easier games. This is the pinnacle... maybe unicorn dash or something.. fruit ninja?
    The people complaining the most about these "nerfs" are people who won't even see them.
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